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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

    Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

    This is a pretty uninspiring squad, I doubt that SA is shaking in their boots looking at that lot.

    And we're going to develop more outside backs than you can shake a stick at, while
    only carrying two specialist first fives. When Joane bolts for the money overseas, think about your selections for squads like this Fozzy.

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      In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

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        ALB is clearly the starting 12 and Goodhue his back-up. Certainly top heavy at 13 and light at 12. I'd give J Barrett a crack at 12, should the opportunity arise.

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        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

          @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

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          @Yeetyaah said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

          You might be right , but the comments on players having specialist positions is an interesting one ,

          And where does that leave beaudy ?

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            @Yeetyaah said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

            You might be right , but the comments on players having specialist positions is an interesting one ,

            And where does that leave beaudy ?

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            @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

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              @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

              Not sure , I guess we wait and see , his ability to play both is a massive plus that is for sure

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                Foster on leaders:

                "We've lost about five from our leadership group. We start with a small group. We'll see how they grow."

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                  In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

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                  @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

                  Looking at how many names are ahead of him, he'd be mad to not take the money overseas.

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                    Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                    Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

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                      Not much to quibble with in there.

                      I think Papali'i was one of the slightly lucky ones, he was ok this year but not standout, but I think he's good guy to have in the squad and he almost covers the whole trio on the bench. First sign that Foster isn't going to be biased towards Chiefs players?

                      I assume Ennor has made it due to Laumape's injury?

                      Good to see Clarke and Jordan both in there, hopefully one of them takes Reece's spot. I still would prefer that we select Rieko as a wing.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                        Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                        This is a pretty uninspiring squad, I doubt that SA is shaking in their boots looking at that lot.

                        And we're going to develop more outside backs than you can shake a stick at, while
                        only carrying two specialist first fives. When Joane bolts for the money overseas, think about your selections for squads like this Fozzy.

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                        @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                        Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                        Look at the loose forwards and props. Add in Patty, Aumua. Plenty of physicality there.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

                          Looking at how many names are ahead of him, he'd be mad to not take the money overseas.

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                          @gt12 Why would he? The main reason he's not there, is the fact that he has spent quite some time in the injury ward. If he can get back to his pre-covid form and stay healthy, he should be able to get in next year. Especially if Dmac doesn't improve.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                            Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

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                            @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                            Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

                            That's a bit worrying, the last time Plumtree talked about wanting a big dude he played Blackwell at lock for a season.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                              Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

                              That's a bit worrying, the last time Plumtree talked about wanting a big dude he played Blackwell at lock for a season.

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                              @Nepia And signed a player that didn't turn up.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                                Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

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                                @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                                Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

                                Those two statements don't quite go together but explains Boshier's omission.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                                  Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                                  Look at the loose forwards and props. Add in Patty, Aumua. Plenty of physicality there.

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                                  @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                                  Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                                  This is a pretty uninspiring squad, I doubt that SA is shaking in their boots looking at that lot.

                                  And we're going to develop more outside backs than you can shake a stick at, while
                                  only carrying two specialist first fives. When Joane bolts for the money overseas, think about your selections for squads like this Fozzy.

                                  And sometimes that physicality is not just who you select , but how you mentally prepare to play, a mindset game plan thing

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                                    Cane also reveals he will be available for the Bay of Plenty against Taranaki next weekend in the opening round of Mitre 10 Cup. The ABs are likely to be available for the first two rounds before heading into camp.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                                      Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                                      Look at the loose forwards and props. Add in Patty, Aumua. Plenty of physicality there.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                                      Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                                      Look at the loose forwards and props. Add in Patty, Aumua. Plenty of physicality there.

                                      I have to admit that I missed they'd selected Akira. And, I'm yet to be convinced by Grace.

                                      Patty was already there, Aumua can't throw, and Hodgman and Lomax are the answer for physicality up front? OK.

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                                        Pleasantly surprised by that squad. Seems like an improvement on Hansen's selections. There are only three selections that I question, they are Vaa'i who barely seems SR level to me, Weber who has an even worse pass than TJP and the third one is DMac. What must Bryn Hall do to get in? The rest are solid selections. Glad to see Paps, Akira and Sotutu get picked, well deserved boys.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Dmac is the luckiest man in that squad.

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                                          @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Dmac is the luckiest man in that squad.

                                          I’m sure this argument has been done already but I disagree with this.
                                          As a utility against some teams he will add good value.
                                          The North back line actually functioned better last night when he went to 10 surprisingly and he had key touches in most of the tries.
                                          JB was the more test suited 15 last night but that didn’t mean that DMac was poor.
                                          I m guessing that most of the critics are focused on that poor pass after a run to the side but IMO both Clarke and ALB failed to read the best option there as well. DMac had stretched the defence and created a gap past the advantage line. His pass was wayward but he would have also expected one of them to have seen the opportunity.

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