Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
1.4k Posts 70 Posters 85.4k Views 3 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    Interesting to see the changes from last year's RWC squad.

    Gone are:
    Coltman, Moli, Taávao, Barrett, Retallick, Jacobson, Read, Todd

    Crotty, SBW, Ben Smith

    The first six will all potentially come again, though I have doubts about Coltman and Ta'avao.

    Lock an obvious challenge in the absence of Retallick and Barrett, and I suspect both the young Ta$man locks would have made it if PPP hadn't been injured. But, that issue will resolve itself in time.

    A slight issue at 2nd five with Laumape injured and ALB not in his best form. I reckon there's a case to play Jordie at 2nd five and Beaudy at fullback.

    Otherwise, something of a needed refresh - I wouldn't want to go to a RWC with a squad this green, but there's lots of upside as the young guys get some tests under their belts.

    boobooB Online
    boobooB Online
    booboo
    wrote on last edited by
    #921

    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Interesting to see the changes from last year's RWC squad.

    Gone are:
    Coltman, Moli, Taávao, Barrett, Retallick, Jacobson, Read, Todd

    Crotty, SBW, Ben Smith

    The first six will all potentially come again, though I have doubts about Coltman and Ta'avao.

    Moli and SB injured rather than just not selected too.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • MokeyM Offline
      MokeyM Offline
      Mokey
      wrote on last edited by
      #922

      I feel like Boshier was unlucky not to make the squad, he was one of the few shining lights in a shit arse Chiefs year, and always caused good trouble at the breakdown.

      My worry of Cane as captain, is that he is one hell of an injury magnet (especially head knocks.) He seems to spend a ratio of 1 week on three weeks off nowadays (not debating toughness or heart AT ALL) also that he seems to have moved away a bit from a true seven. Shrug.

      CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • sharkS shark

        Easy enough to gain bulk. Pretty fucken hard to gain height.

        MN5M Offline
        MN5M Offline
        MN5
        wrote on last edited by
        #923

        @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        Easy enough to gain bulk. Pretty fucken hard to gain height.

        I’ll try some of these and let you know. 6 foot 4 here I come.

        M 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • MN5M MN5

          @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Easy enough to gain bulk. Pretty fucken hard to gain height.

          I’ll try some of these and let you know. 6 foot 4 here I come.

          M Offline
          M Offline
          Machpants
          wrote on last edited by
          #924

          @MN5 I'd rather keep my skin

          1 Reply Last reply
          3
          • MokeyM Mokey

            I feel like Boshier was unlucky not to make the squad, he was one of the few shining lights in a shit arse Chiefs year, and always caused good trouble at the breakdown.

            My worry of Cane as captain, is that he is one hell of an injury magnet (especially head knocks.) He seems to spend a ratio of 1 week on three weeks off nowadays (not debating toughness or heart AT ALL) also that he seems to have moved away a bit from a true seven. Shrug.

            CrucialC Offline
            CrucialC Offline
            Crucial
            wrote on last edited by
            #925

            @Mokey said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            I feel like Boshier was unlucky not to make the squad, he was one of the few shining lights in a shit arse Chiefs year, and always caused good trouble at the breakdown.

            My worry of Cane as captain, is that he is one hell of an injury magnet (especially head knocks.) He seems to spend a ratio of 1 week on three weeks off nowadays (not debating toughness or heart AT ALL) also that he seems to have moved away a bit from a true seven. Shrug.

            I think Fozzie has taken a leaf out of Eddies book. No need for “true sevens” if you have guys with a licence to smash opposition off the ball.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • K Offline
              K Offline
              kidcalder
              wrote on last edited by
              #926

              I think in a few years (not yet) Caleb Clarke will follow his old man into the 12 jersey, his balance and skillset seems a good fit to me

              P 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • Daffy JaffyD Offline
                Daffy JaffyD Offline
                Daffy Jaffy
                wrote on last edited by
                #927
                This post is deleted!
                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  NZ U20 locks of the past 5 years (includes lock/loosies)

                  Height/weight info taken from the player's most recent SR franchise profile or, in the absence of that, his most recent provincial profile

                  Player Year in NZ U20 current NPC province current SR franchise Height/weight
                  Dunshea, Mitchell 2015 Canterbury Crusaders 1.97m/115kg
                  Cridge, Geoff 2015 Hawke's Bay ex-Hurricanes 2.00m/114kg
                  Goodhue, Josh 2015 Northland Blues 1.99m/115kg
                  Blackwell, James 2015 Wellington Hurricanes 1.90m/107kg
                  Strange, Quinten 2016 Ta$man Crusaders 1.99m/116kg
                  Dalzell, Hamish 2016 Auckland ex-Crusaders 2.01m/118kg
                  Walker-Leawere, Isaia 2016, 2017 Hawke's Bay Hurricanes 1.97m/122kg
                  Hoeata, Fin 2016 Taranaki ex-Chiefs 1.96m/105kg*
                  Pierce, Jacob 2017 North Harbour Blues 2.01m/106kg
                  Caird, Sam 2017 Northland 2.02m/116kg*
                  Slade, Samuel 2017 Counties M. 1.94m/111kg**
                  McWhannell, Laghlan 2018 Waikato? Chiefs 1.98m/114kg
                  Tucker, Will 2018 Otago Highlanders 2.02m/111kg**
                  Grace, Cullen 2019 Canterbury Crusaders 1.93m/107kg
                  Plumtree, Taine 2019 Wellington ?
                  Vaa'i, Tupou 2019 Taranaki Chiefs 1.98m/118kg
                  Ah Kuoi, Naitoa 2019*** Wellington Chiefs 1.96m/116kg

                  *weight according to Wikipedia
                  **height/weight according to Rugbypass
                  ***not selected for JWC, only Oceania U20 Championship

                  TimT Away
                  TimT Away
                  Tim
                  wrote on last edited by Tim
                  #928

                  @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw him in Newmarket in July.

                  B A 2 Replies Last reply
                  0
                  • TimT Tim

                    @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw him in Newmarket in July.

                    B Offline
                    B Offline
                    bobily2
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #929

                    @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw in Newmarket in July.

                    The Super Rugby teams very rarely update player profiles. The listed weight tends to be the weight the player joined the team at

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • C Offline
                      C Offline
                      cgrant
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #930

                      Yes, he is pretty big and renowned for his strength in the scrums. That wouldn't be the case if he was weighing 106 kg.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      2
                      • BonesB Offline
                        BonesB Offline
                        Bones
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #931

                        What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                        M A MN5M F Chris B.C 5 Replies Last reply
                        7
                        • BonesB Bones

                          What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                          M Offline
                          M Offline
                          Machpants
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #932

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                          At least I've heard of him, unlike the other lock!

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • BonesB Bones

                            What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                            A Offline
                            A Offline
                            African Monkey
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #933

                            @Bones Agreed. Dunshea plays most of the mins in SR and made a good fist of things, yet somehow the overhyped Strange whose best contribution was throwing a tantrum when his team was losing and got his marching orders for, gets the gig instead.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            5
                            • TimT Tim

                              @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw him in Newmarket in July.

                              A Away
                              A Away
                              akan004
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #934

                              @Tim Wiki has him at 121 kgs, Tim. Sounds about right.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              2
                              • BonesB Bones

                                What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                MN5M Offline
                                MN5M Offline
                                MN5
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #935

                                @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                                Bro, does he even lift ?

                                sparkyS 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • K kidcalder

                                  I think in a few years (not yet) Caleb Clarke will follow his old man into the 12 jersey, his balance and skillset seems a good fit to me

                                  P Offline
                                  P Offline
                                  pakman
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #936

                                  @kidcalder said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  I think in a few years (not yet) Caleb Clarke will follow his old man into the 12 jersey, his balance and skillset seems a good fit to me

                                  Not sure about passing (Nonu precedent), but running style seems perfect.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • P Offline
                                    P Offline
                                    pakman
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #937

                                    Can't really argue with forward selections.

                                    Aumua needs to learn to throw.

                                    Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

                                    Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

                                    Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

                                    In backs all the usual suspects.

                                    Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

                                    P 1 Reply Last reply
                                    4
                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                      F Offline
                                      F Offline
                                      Frank
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #938

                                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                      Stargazer will tell you.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                        I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                                        Bro, does he even lift ?

                                        sparkyS Offline
                                        sparkyS Offline
                                        sparky
                                        wrote on last edited by sparky
                                        #939

                                        @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                        I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                                        Bro, does he even lift ?

                                        Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

                                        He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romano in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moves sometimes.

                                        ACT CrusaderA 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                          I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                                          Bro, does he even lift ?

                                          Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

                                          He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romano in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moves sometimes.

                                          ACT CrusaderA Offline
                                          ACT CrusaderA Offline
                                          ACT Crusader
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #940

                                          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                                          I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                                          Bro, does he even lift ?

                                          Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

                                          He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romeo in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moved sometimes.

                                          Future AB captain material right there....

                                          sparkyS 1 Reply Last reply
                                          8
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search