All Blacks Tests 2020
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@Bones said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@taniwharugby yeah exactly, as I understand it there wouldn't be crowds in NZ? Win win.
Well if, as is likely the not guaranteed, we are at level 1 by then, NZ would have full stadiums
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@Machpants or Aus go back up levels....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants or Aus go back up levels....
NZ government could ask Ta$man for a loan and steal it back.
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That's far enough away that we'd probably be at level 1, and MBIE did some work on options for holding events at level 2 - basically, divide the crowd into separate sections of 100.
NZR can blame the government all they like, but if the Rugby Championship was a source of the reintroduction of Covid-19, and more people died from it, it would be reputationally ruinous for NZR and the government.
Also while the border is closed, the economic impact for NZ is fuck all because people would have spent the money anyway on something else.
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That's far enough away that we'd probably be at level 1, and MBIE did some work on options for holding events at level 2 - basically, divide the crowd into separate sections of 100.
NZR can blame the government all they like, but if the Rugby Championship was a source of the reintroduction of Covid-19, and more people died from it, it would be reputationally ruinous for NZR and the government.
Also while the border is closed, the economic impact for NZ is fuck all because people would have spent the money anyway on something else.
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I'm far from convinced we will have a full RC. SA don't start playing until next month so won't want to travel to Aust until early Nov at the earliest after playing their 4-5 games. That's assuming there are no covid issues within SA in the interim. And no team wants to be quarantined at Christmas so the window to play is very tight.
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@Godder but we don't get to watch it live
but good points Ozzie have the risk (covered by Oz govts) and we still get revenue sharing, I would imagine@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Godder but we don't get to watch it live
but good points Ozzie have the risk (covered by Oz govts) and we still get revenue sharing, I would imagineFair point, getting to go to the game might not be much net economic impact but it's certainly an enjoyable experience.
We might still get to see Bledisloe Cup and some NPC live though.
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I'm far from convinced we will have a full RC. SA don't start playing until next month so won't want to travel to Aust until early Nov at the earliest after playing their 4-5 games. That's assuming there are no covid issues within SA in the interim. And no team wants to be quarantined at Christmas so the window to play is very tight.
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@Bovidae haven't some Argies tested positive too?
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@taniwharugby Yes, 11 players and the coach (Ledesma).
@Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.
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Trump said that it was terrible what was happening here with our latest outbreak, surely that wasn't a lie? People dropping dead everywhere. I'm tripping over bodies in the streets now. We can't possibly host it.
Facetiousness aside - Aus aren't any better off in terms of the disease.
My guess is whichever government will let crowds in gets it.
@Snowy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Trump said that it was terrible what was happening here with our latest outbreak, surely that wasn't a lie? People dropping dead everywhere. I'm tripping over bodies in the streets now. We can't possibly host it.
Facetiousness aside - Aus aren't any better off in terms of the disease.
My guess is whichever government will let crowds in gets it.
4 people getting this
fluvirus and locking the country down didn't do NZ's chances of hosting it much good -
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
Fkn stupidAt least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
Fkn stupidAt least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing
Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
Fkn stupidAt least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing
Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.
@pakman said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
Fkn stupidAt least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing
Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.
Why FFS. The NZ Govt would have been better to have just said no. The children can't play in NZ
“In New Zealand the teams land, they come into isolation for four days, from days 5-7 they’re in a bubble of 15 which doesn’t allow teams to train in full squads, and from days 8-14, they were set to be in bubble of 25 which is restrictive also and makes it difficult for the way teams want to prepare.
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As I watch 2 months of international cricket involving 4 teams on an island the same size as New Zealand, with an infinitely porous border, 12 times the population, and love every bit of watching international sport.
I don't give a fuck about the no crowd, I'm just grateful and impressed that the ECB and England got the job done!
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As I watch 2 months of international cricket involving 4 teams on an island the same size as New Zealand, with an infinitely porous border, 12 times the population, and love every bit of watching international sport.
I don't give a fuck about the no crowd, I'm just grateful and impressed that the ECB and England got the job done!
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@pakman said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
Fkn stupidAt least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing
Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.
Why FFS. The NZ Govt would have been better to have just said no. The children can't play in NZ
“In New Zealand the teams land, they come into isolation for four days, from days 5-7 they’re in a bubble of 15 which doesn’t allow teams to train in full squads, and from days 8-14, they were set to be in bubble of 25 which is restrictive also and makes it difficult for the way teams want to prepare.
@Winger said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@pakman said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
Fkn stupidAt least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing
Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.
Why FFS. The NZ Govt would have been better to have just said no. The children can't play in NZ
“In New Zealand the teams land, they come into isolation for four days, from days 5-7 they’re in a bubble of 15 which doesn’t allow teams to train in full squads, and from days 8-14, they were set to be in bubble of 25 which is restrictive also and makes it difficult for the way teams want to prepare.
My point being Jacinda’s excuse for the decision comprehensively debunked by St. Mark.
No quibble with decision itself.
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@Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.
Instead, this way crowds are pretty much on par with recent years ...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.
Instead, this way crowds are pretty much on par with recent years ...
@booboo I know you are just taking the piss, but they will be much more down, assume other Unions have done the same as NRU who have refunded all season tickets.
Given what we saw in SRA we were primed for good crowds in NPC
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@booboo I know you are just taking the piss, but they will be much more down, assume other Unions have done the same as NRU who have refunded all season tickets.
Given what we saw in SRA we were primed for good crowds in NPC
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@booboo I know you are just taking the piss, but they will be much more down, assume other Unions have done the same as NRU who have refunded all season tickets.
Given what we saw in SRA we were primed for good crowds in NPC
Yeah I am. The crowd at NH stadium looked about normal though.
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Revenue Sharing confirmed: NZR would still receive revenue from ticket sales, Rugby Australia’s interim chief executive Rob Clarke confirmed last night.
“The way Sanzaar has approached this is very much a ‘all hands in the middle’ where all expenses will be pooled and all revenue will be pooled,” Clarke said.
“The profit share will be split among the Sanzaar partners equally. It’s a very fair approach. I think it incentivises everybody to make it more successful.”
