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All Blacks Tests 2020

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  • M Machpants

    @Godder but we don't get to watch it live 😭 but good points Ozzie have the risk (covered by Oz govts) and we still get revenue sharing, I would imagine

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

    @Godder but we don't get to watch it live 😭 but good points Ozzie have the risk (covered by Oz govts) and we still get revenue sharing, I would imagine

    Fair point, getting to go to the game might not be much net economic impact but it's certainly an enjoyable experience.

    We might still get to see Bledisloe Cup and some NPC live though.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      I'm far from convinced we will have a full RC. SA don't start playing until next month so won't want to travel to Aust until early Nov at the earliest after playing their 4-5 games. That's assuming there are no covid issues within SA in the interim. And no team wants to be quarantined at Christmas so the window to play is very tight.

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      @Bovidae haven't some Argies tested positive too?

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @Bovidae haven't some Argies tested positive too?

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        @taniwharugby Yes, 11 players and the coach (Ledesma).

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          @taniwharugby Yes, 11 players and the coach (Ledesma).

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          @Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.

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          • SnowyS Snowy

            Trump said that it was terrible what was happening here with our latest outbreak, surely that wasn't a lie? People dropping dead everywhere. I'm tripping over bodies in the streets now. We can't possibly host it.

            Facetiousness aside - Aus aren't any better off in terms of the disease.

            My guess is whichever government will let crowds in gets it.

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            @Snowy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

            Trump said that it was terrible what was happening here with our latest outbreak, surely that wasn't a lie? People dropping dead everywhere. I'm tripping over bodies in the streets now. We can't possibly host it.

            Facetiousness aside - Aus aren't any better off in terms of the disease.

            My guess is whichever government will let crowds in gets it.

            4 people getting this flu virus and locking the country down didn't do NZ's chances of hosting it much good

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            • M Machpants

              @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

              Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

              Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
              Fkn stupid

              At least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300105542/quarantine-protocols-not-sanzaar-politics-cost-us-rugby-championship-says-nz-rugby-boss

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              @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

              Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

              Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
              Fkn stupid

              At least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300105542/quarantine-protocols-not-sanzaar-politics-cost-us-rugby-championship-says-nz-rugby-boss

              Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.

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                @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

                Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
                Fkn stupid

                At least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300105542/quarantine-protocols-not-sanzaar-politics-cost-us-rugby-championship-says-nz-rugby-boss

                Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.

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                @pakman said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

                Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
                Fkn stupid

                At least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing

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                Why FFS. The NZ Govt would have been better to have just said no. The children can't play in NZ

                “In New Zealand the teams land, they come into isolation for four days, from days 5-7 they’re in a bubble of 15 which doesn’t allow teams to train in full squads, and from days 8-14, they were set to be in bubble of 25 which is restrictive also and makes it difficult for the way teams want to prepare.

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                  As I watch 2 months of international cricket involving 4 teams on an island the same size as New Zealand, with an infinitely porous border, 12 times the population, and love every bit of watching international sport.

                  I don't give a fuck about the no crowd, I'm just grateful and impressed that the ECB and England got the job done!

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                  • SiamS Siam

                    As I watch 2 months of international cricket involving 4 teams on an island the same size as New Zealand, with an infinitely porous border, 12 times the population, and love every bit of watching international sport.

                    I don't give a fuck about the no crowd, I'm just grateful and impressed that the ECB and England got the job done!

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                    @Siam exactly! Get in AR, you beauties!

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                    • WingerW Winger

                      @pakman said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

                      Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
                      Fkn stupid

                      At least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing

                      Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.

                      Why FFS. The NZ Govt would have been better to have just said no. The children can't play in NZ

                      “In New Zealand the teams land, they come into isolation for four days, from days 5-7 they’re in a bubble of 15 which doesn’t allow teams to train in full squads, and from days 8-14, they were set to be in bubble of 25 which is restrictive also and makes it difficult for the way teams want to prepare.

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                      @Winger said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

                      Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
                      Fkn stupid

                      At least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing

                      Robinson Rampagers 21 — Cindy Crusaders 0.

                      Why FFS. The NZ Govt would have been better to have just said no. The children can't play in NZ

                      “In New Zealand the teams land, they come into isolation for four days, from days 5-7 they’re in a bubble of 15 which doesn’t allow teams to train in full squads, and from days 8-14, they were set to be in bubble of 25 which is restrictive also and makes it difficult for the way teams want to prepare.

                      My point being Jacinda’s excuse for the decision comprehensively debunked by St. Mark.

                      No quibble with decision itself.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                        @Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.

                        Instead, this way crowds are pretty much on par with recent years ...

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                          @Bovidae lots of stars need to align for TRC to be played yet...in a way, it woulda been nice if the Int season was canned and for all ABs were available for the whole NPC, in L1...reckon we'd have seen crowds we haven't seen for 20 years.

                          Instead, this way crowds are pretty much on par with recent years ...

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @booboo I know you are just taking the piss, but they will be much more down, assume other Unions have done the same as NRU who have refunded all season tickets.

                          Given what we saw in SRA we were primed for good crowds in NPC

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @booboo I know you are just taking the piss, but they will be much more down, assume other Unions have done the same as NRU who have refunded all season tickets.

                            Given what we saw in SRA we were primed for good crowds in NPC

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                            booboo
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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                            @booboo I know you are just taking the piss, but they will be much more down, assume other Unions have done the same as NRU who have refunded all season tickets.

                            Given what we saw in SRA we were primed for good crowds in NPC

                            Yeah I am. The crowd at NH stadium looked about normal though.

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                              Revenue Sharing confirmed: NZR would still receive revenue from ticket sales, Rugby Australia’s interim chief executive Rob Clarke confirmed last night.

                              “The way Sanzaar has approached this is very much a ‘all hands in the middle’ where all expenses will be pooled and all revenue will be pooled,” Clarke said.

                              “The profit share will be split among the Sanzaar partners equally. It’s a very fair approach. I think it incentivises everybody to make it more successful.”

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                                Revenue Sharing confirmed: NZR would still receive revenue from ticket sales, Rugby Australia’s interim chief executive Rob Clarke confirmed last night.

                                “The way Sanzaar has approached this is very much a ‘all hands in the middle’ where all expenses will be pooled and all revenue will be pooled,” Clarke said.

                                “The profit share will be split among the Sanzaar partners equally. It’s a very fair approach. I think it incentivises everybody to make it more successful.”

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                                Derpus
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                                @Machpants Aside from the disappointment of not being able to actually attend, this isn't a terrible outcome for NZ. Any Covid related risk is born by NSW but NZRU still get a slice of the gate receipts.

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                                • D Derpus

                                  @Machpants Aside from the disappointment of not being able to actually attend, this isn't a terrible outcome for NZ. Any Covid related risk is born by NSW but NZRU still get a slice of the gate receipts.

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                                  @Derpus said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                                  @Machpants Aside from the disappointment of not being able to actually attend, this isn't a terrible outcome for NZ. Any Covid related risk is born by NSW but NZRU still get a slice of the gate receipts.

                                  Yep. No big deal, who knows what Covid levels we be at anyway.

                                  Anyone know what the broadcasting share is? Have I just Boobooed?

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                                    One person gets Covid in any of the teams and the competition is over. Given the incubation period can vary, their environments and the international travel for SA and Argentina teams the border control rules were reasonable. You can’t be moaning about border controls being the weakness and then open the door. Mark Robinson will be disappointed but he should pull his head in. NZRU has a privileged position and they should play the long game. As with their his ultimatum to ARU, this just speaks to their arrogance.

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                                      One person gets Covid in any of the teams and the competition is over. Given the incubation period can vary, their environments and the international travel for SA and Argentina teams the border control rules were reasonable. You can’t be moaning about border controls being the weakness and then open the door. Mark Robinson will be disappointed but he should pull his head in. NZRU has a privileged position and they should play the long game. As with their his ultimatum to ARU, this just speaks to their arrogance.

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                                      @kev said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                                      One person gets Covid in any of the teams and the competition is over.

                                      How is that possible if they are in a quarantine bubble?

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                                        One person gets Covid in any of the teams and the competition is over. Given the incubation period can vary, their environments and the international travel for SA and Argentina teams the border control rules were reasonable. You can’t be moaning about border controls being the weakness and then open the door. Mark Robinson will be disappointed but he should pull his head in. NZRU has a privileged position and they should play the long game. As with their his ultimatum to ARU, this just speaks to their arrogance.

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                                        Machpants
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                                        @kev pull his head in? He's just started the facts as to why NZ lost out to hosting vs Oz. Quarantine requirements. So what is he supposed to say when asked? Yeah we lost due to SANZAAR politics

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                                          @kev said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                                          One person gets Covid in any of the teams and the competition is over.

                                          How is that possible if they are in a quarantine bubble?

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                                          @kev said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                                          One person gets Covid in any of the teams and the competition is over.

                                          How is that possible if they are in a quarantine bubble?

                                          It'll be over for that team

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