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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    I'm almost thankful that we have no games this year, or at most, a couple against the Aussies. Because this team is pretty uninspiring to me. Not for a lack of talent, but for how "messy" it feels. So few guys picking themselves as automatic selections, too many being touted to play out of position, and a new captain that is injury prone and probably not world class even at full fitness.

    How can we have gone through another season and still have no idea what our midfield should look like? How is it that we have no natural 12's any more? We are touting Jordie Barret or Ennor (pre-injury) as great options, WTF?

    We are still debating who to play at 10, who our best wings are, who to play at 15. We have no standout at 6, even 8 (maybe Sotutu), and arguably our best 7 will need to come off the bench.

    And what we absolutely don't have is an cohesiveness in the combinations across the park. Tight 5? Nah. Loosie combination? No. Number 8/9 combo? Nope. Midfield? Maybe of they go back to ALB/Goodhue, but people seem to think this is unlikely. Back 3? Nuh uh.

    I could see this team getting toasted by SA if we played them tomorrow.

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    You said it Homer.

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    I don't share the negativity.

    I'm also trying to ignore the Cane trolling.

    Trolling? Why do say that? Is any criticism of him disallowed?

    I like Cane, I was amongst those calling for Hansons immediate sacking when he was omitted from the SF team. He hits like a rock, and in that backdrop in particular, he was absolutely necessary.

    But in a balanced back row, with a traditional big 6 and a more powerful 8 (say Frizell and Sotutu), I don't think Cane is a world class 7 and I'd rather see Ardie in there.

    Hardly trolling

    Of course it's trolling. What did Ardie do as an openside in the NvS game apart from watch a number 8 go flying by at a scrum?

    Ummmmmm - you accuse me of trolling, I give you a few valid reasons for my opinion, and you come back with a single incident in a single game as some sort of evidence that I am trolling???

    That you think they're valid doesn't make them so. I simply can't take anyone seriously who posits that Cane isn't a world class openside flanker.

    Well not too many world class guys get left out of their national side for a RWC SF do they? Seriously, where would you rank him internationally as a 7? World class to me means you're one of the first guys to be picked in your national team. Guess we just have different measures of greatness.

    Cane being left out of the RWC SF was an absolutely ridiculous decision. It was literally leaving a world class player out of the starting lineup for the most important game. I still shake my head in disbelief at that.

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    @No-Quarter said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Cane being left out of the RWC SF was an absolutely ridiculous decision. It was literally leaving a world class player out of the starting lineup for the most important game. I still shake my head in disbelief at that.

    Hansen's selection was to disrupt the England lineout.

    That went well.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      Guys who might come into the squad:

      Props: Ta'avao, Bower

      Hooker: Dixon, Coltman

      Locks: Scott Barrett (should be fit by then)

      Back row: Tom Christie, Boshier, Jacobson.

      Half Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Bryn Hall

      First Fives: Josh Ioane, Otere Black

      Midfield: Ngani Laumape

      Back Three: Mark Telea.

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      #1225

      @sparky I guess it'll be focused on the specialist positions, front row, nine, ten. Locks will also get a re-assess after first 2 Bleds I would imagine. Not all of the current ABs squad will go over, even without injuries. As you say Scooter should be back, but will they drop one or two of the young locks for different ones?

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        #1226

        The other point was Foster and co will wait until as late as possible to decide on the extra players, so they can assess M10 Cup form. But definitely specialist positions will be at the top of the list.

        Otago will get their ABs after all.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Guys who might come into the squad:

          Props: Ta'avao, Bower

          Hooker: Dixon, Coltman

          Locks: Scott Barrett (should be fit by then)

          Back row: Tom Christie, Boshier, Jacobson.

          Half Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Bryn Hall

          First Fives: Josh Ioane, Otere Black

          Midfield: Ngani Laumape

          Back Three: Mark Telea.

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          #1227

          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Matt Drummond

          So close...

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          • BonesB Bones

            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            Matt Drummond

            So close...

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            #1228

            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            Matt Drummond

            So close...

            Matt Drummond makes films about dinosaurs. Mitch Drummond plays Half Back for the Crusaders.

            So easy to confuse the two....

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            • sparkyS sparky

              Guys who might come into the squad:

              Props: Ta'avao, Bower

              Hooker: Dixon, Coltman

              Locks: Scott Barrett (should be fit by then)

              Back row: Tom Christie, Boshier, Jacobson.

              Half Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Bryn Hall

              First Fives: Josh Ioane, Otere Black

              Midfield: Ngani Laumape

              Back Three: Mark Telea.

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              pukunui
              wrote on last edited by
              #1229

              @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              Guys who might come into the squad:

              Props: Ta'avao, Bower

              Hooker: Dixon, Coltman

              Locks: Scott Barrett (should be fit by then)

              Back row: Tom Christie, Boshier, Jacobson.

              Half Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Bryn Hall

              First Fives: Josh Ioane, Otere Black

              Midfield: Ngani Laumape

              Back Three: Mark Telea.

              David Havili would be a decent addition too given he covers a few positions. Maybe Dunshea if Scott Barrett is out still.

              Wouldn’t be surprised if someone like TJP sits the tour our because of his new baby. Long time to be away.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                Matt Drummond

                So close...

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                #1230

                @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                Matt Drummond

                So close...

                Mike Drummond?

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  Matt Drummond

                  So close...

                  Mike Drummond?

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                  Bones
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                  #1231

                  @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  Matt Drummond

                  So close...

                  Mike Drummond?

                  T Crusader.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    Matt Drummond

                    So close...

                    Mike Drummond?

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                    #1232

                    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    Matt Drummond

                    So close...

                    Mike Drummond?

                    Mark Drum Kit?

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                    • boobooB Online
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                      booboo
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                      #1233

                      What is the status of Big Red Robinson?

                      Lock/6

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        What is the status of Big Red Robinson?

                        Lock/6

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1234

                        @booboo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        What is the status of Big Red Robinson?

                        Lock/6

                        Playing for Northland tomorrow

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Matt Drummond

                          So close...

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1235

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Matt Drummond

                          So close...

                          He'll come back from this...

                          Bulldogdrummondcomesback.jpg

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @booboo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            What is the status of Big Red Robinson?

                            Lock/6

                            Playing for Northland tomorrow

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                            @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @booboo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            What is the status of Big Red Robinson?

                            Lock/6

                            Playing for Northland tomorrow

                            If so, bring him in!

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Nice one, Labour. An AB squad - extended at that - having to go to Australia for several weeks really fucks the NPC.

                              How dare they follow Ministry of Health guidelines and not think of long suffering Rugby fans

                              Or the economy as well, perhaps??

                              I bet you’re one of those non mask wearing types

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                              @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Nice one, Labour. An AB squad - extended at that - having to go to Australia for several weeks really fucks the NPC.

                              How dare they follow Ministry of Health guidelines and not think of long suffering Rugby fans

                              Or the economy as well, perhaps??

                              I bet you’re one of those non mask wearing types

                              You mean along with the other 95% of the country?

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                              • KruseK Kruse

                                @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

                                It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

                                Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
                                How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

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                                #1238

                                @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

                                It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

                                Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
                                How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

                                Sigh. Thanks for that, Jacinda.

                                Don't worry about enabling a solid economic boost at very minimal risk to health. Let's just create asinine rules around bubble limits which prohibit the event from happening. If you're going to limit team trainings to 25 or whatever then you need to limit workplaces in general to 25 as well. It's absolute OTT garbage from the Govt.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  Newshub are saying that the AB squad will be expanded to 46 players, so another 11 players to be added. That is assuming none of the current squad don't pull out for personal reasons.

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                                  @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Newshub are saying that the AB squad will be expanded to 46 players, so another 11 players to be added. That is assuming none of the current squad don't pull out for personal reasons.

                                  Great. That'll contribute to a real peak in the NPC come November.

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                                  • P pakman

                                    @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @booboo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    What is the status of Big Red Robinson?

                                    Lock/6

                                    Playing for Northland tomorrow

                                    If so, bring him in!

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                                    taniwharugby
                                    wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
                                    #1240

                                    @pakman nah he's not ready 🤫

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                                    • sharkS shark

                                      @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

                                      It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

                                      Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
                                      How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

                                      Sigh. Thanks for that, Jacinda.

                                      Don't worry about enabling a solid economic boost at very minimal risk to health. Let's just create asinine rules around bubble limits which prohibit the event from happening. If you're going to limit team trainings to 25 or whatever then you need to limit workplaces in general to 25 as well. It's absolute OTT garbage from the Govt.

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                                      #1241

                                      @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

                                      It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

                                      Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
                                      How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

                                      Sigh. Thanks for that, Jacinda.

                                      Don't worry about enabling a solid economic boost at very minimal risk to health. Let's just create asinine rules around bubble limits which prohibit the event from happening. If you're going to limit team trainings to 25 or whatever then you need to limit workplaces in general to 25 as well. It's absolute OTT garbage from the Govt.

                                      Sigh.

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                                      • KruseK Kruse

                                        @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

                                        It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

                                        Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
                                        How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

                                        Sigh. Thanks for that, Jacinda.

                                        Don't worry about enabling a solid economic boost at very minimal risk to health. Let's just create asinine rules around bubble limits which prohibit the event from happening. If you're going to limit team trainings to 25 or whatever then you need to limit workplaces in general to 25 as well. It's absolute OTT garbage from the Govt.

                                        Sigh.

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                                        #1242

                                        @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

                                        It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

                                        Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
                                        How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

                                        Sigh. Thanks for that, Jacinda.

                                        Don't worry about enabling a solid economic boost at very minimal risk to health. Let's just create asinine rules around bubble limits which prohibit the event from happening. If you're going to limit team trainings to 25 or whatever then you need to limit workplaces in general to 25 as well. It's absolute OTT garbage from the Govt.

                                        Sigh.

                                        Whoa. Looks like someone’s voting National. What a rant

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                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364748

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