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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • KruseK Kruse

    @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

    It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

    Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
    How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

    Sigh. Thanks for that, Jacinda.

    Don't worry about enabling a solid economic boost at very minimal risk to health. Let's just create asinine rules around bubble limits which prohibit the event from happening. If you're going to limit team trainings to 25 or whatever then you need to limit workplaces in general to 25 as well. It's absolute OTT garbage from the Govt.

    Sigh.

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    @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Kruse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @shark you realise, of course, that the govt follow the advice of the health service, not the other way around. Unlike some countries,

    It's the governments decision, ultimately. Doesn't matter a shit how much advice they take or from where. Actually, it does. When the only advice you seriously consider represents only one facet in a decision making process, it matters many shits.

    Yeah, and that one “facet” being the relevant Subject-Matter-Expert. And, probably, consultation with indirectly-involved SMEs. Shit.
    How dare they not consider consulting InfoWars and random reddit threads?

    Sigh. Thanks for that, Jacinda.

    Don't worry about enabling a solid economic boost at very minimal risk to health. Let's just create asinine rules around bubble limits which prohibit the event from happening. If you're going to limit team trainings to 25 or whatever then you need to limit workplaces in general to 25 as well. It's absolute OTT garbage from the Govt.

    Sigh.

    Whoa. Looks like someone’s voting National. What a rant

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      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364748

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      • TimT Tim

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12364748

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        @Tim Ha ha! And who can blame them for not wanting to go.

        Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

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          Kirwan
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          #1245

          It an interesting situation, and I doubt it's covered in their contracts either. Hard to enforce this length of time overseas away from family.

          How many players pull out before you have to call it a NZ Selection instead of the All Blacks? Or we just don't send a team?

          Player's that have just been selected for the first time are in a tough situation too, where they can't say no. Is that fair?

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            So who would replace them? Ioane and Black?

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            • TimT Tim

              So who would replace them? Ioane and Black?

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              @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              So who would replace them? Ioane and Black?

              McKenzie 🙂

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                So who would replace them? Ioane and Black?

                McKenzie 🙂

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                @Kirwan He and Jordie Barrett are in the squad already, but I meant which are the two specialists who would be brought in?

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  It an interesting situation, and I doubt it's covered in their contracts either. Hard to enforce this length of time overseas away from family.

                  How many players pull out before you have to call it a NZ Selection instead of the All Blacks? Or we just don't send a team?

                  Player's that have just been selected for the first time are in a tough situation too, where they can't say no. Is that fair?

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                  @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  It an interesting situation, and I doubt it's covered in their contracts either. Hard to enforce this length of time overseas away from family.

                  How many players pull out before you have to call it a NZ Selection instead of the All Blacks? Or we just don't send a team?

                  Fans can call it what they wish but it will be the AB's if they wear the AB strip.

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    It an interesting situation, and I doubt it's covered in their contracts either. Hard to enforce this length of time overseas away from family.

                    How many players pull out before you have to call it a NZ Selection instead of the All Blacks? Or we just don't send a team?

                    Fans can call it what they wish but it will be the AB's if they wear the AB strip.

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                    Kirwan
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                    #1250

                    @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    It an interesting situation, and I doubt it's covered in their contracts either. Hard to enforce this length of time overseas away from family.

                    How many players pull out before you have to call it a NZ Selection instead of the All Blacks? Or we just don't send a team?

                    Fans can call it what they wish but it will be the AB's if they wear the AB strip.

                    Reminds me of the baby blacks back in the day.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @Kirwan He and Jordie Barrett are in the squad already, but I meant which are the two specialists who would be brought in?

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                      @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @Kirwan He and Jordie Barrett are in the squad already, but I meant which are the two specialists who would be brought in?

                      3 specialists, I reckon, for extended 46 player squad!

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                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                        @Tim Ha ha! And who can blame them for not wanting to go.

                        Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

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                        @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

                        I really like that. The rugby so far has been good. The players get to stay at home. We have less risk off Covid infection (another discussion, a closed border is, well, closed) locking us down again would be fucked and mean that everything that we have done is a waste of time, again.

                        Local passion for the NPC games seem to be high. Let the Aussies have the RC, stay here.

                        Money will come into it of course, but if we can get crowds to NPC then it might not be too different for the unions anyway. How much would NZRU suffer?

                        I love the All Blacks and international rugby, but I can live with a year off and enjoy the NPC.

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                          taniwharugby
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                          this is all assuming the Argies can cobble together a team? Surely if they pull the pin, it impacts all, or do NZ, SA & Aus carry on?

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            this is all assuming the Argies can cobble together a team? Surely if they pull the pin, it impacts all, or do NZ, SA & Aus carry on?

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                            @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            this is all assuming the Argies can cobble together a team? Surely if they pull the pin, it impacts all, or do NZ, SA & Aus carry on?

                            I don’t think it will make a difference, but could mean shorter tours for NZ.
                            IE Week 1 and 2 Oz vs NZ (Bled 3 and 4), Boks train
                            Week 3 NZ vs SA
                            Week 4 Oz vs SA
                            Week 5 NZ vs SA then home in time for XMas
                            Week 6 Oz vs SA

                            That gives SA more time to train and get players back from NH. TBH with the mess Arg is, better to do Tri this year anyway

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                            • SnowyS Snowy

                              @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

                              I really like that. The rugby so far has been good. The players get to stay at home. We have less risk off Covid infection (another discussion, a closed border is, well, closed) locking us down again would be fucked and mean that everything that we have done is a waste of time, again.

                              Local passion for the NPC games seem to be high. Let the Aussies have the RC, stay here.

                              Money will come into it of course, but if we can get crowds to NPC then it might not be too different for the unions anyway. How much would NZRU suffer?

                              I love the All Blacks and international rugby, but I can live with a year off and enjoy the NPC.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1255

                              @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

                              I really like that. The rugby so far has been good. The players get to stay at home. We have less risk off Covid infection (another discussion, a closed border is, well, closed) locking us down again would be fucked and mean that everything that we have done is a waste of time, again.

                              Local passion for the NPC games seem to be high. Let the Aussies have the RC, stay here.

                              Money will come into it of course, but if we can get crowds to NPC then it might not be too different for the unions anyway. How much would NZRU suffer?

                              I love the All Blacks and international rugby, but I can live with a year off and enjoy the NPC.

                              Watching all the ABs running out for the provinces is great, let them play!

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                              • M Machpants

                                @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Kirwan He and Jordie Barrett are in the squad already, but I meant which are the two specialists who would be brought in?

                                3 specialists, I reckon, for extended 46 player squad!

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                                @Machpants So, Mitch Hunt as well?

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

                                  I really like that. The rugby so far has been good. The players get to stay at home. We have less risk off Covid infection (another discussion, a closed border is, well, closed) locking us down again would be fucked and mean that everything that we have done is a waste of time, again.

                                  Local passion for the NPC games seem to be high. Let the Aussies have the RC, stay here.

                                  Money will come into it of course, but if we can get crowds to NPC then it might not be too different for the unions anyway. How much would NZRU suffer?

                                  I love the All Blacks and international rugby, but I can live with a year off and enjoy the NPC.

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                                  Hooroo
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                                  #1257

                                  @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

                                  I really like that. The rugby so far has been good. The players get to stay at home. We have less risk off Covid infection (another discussion, a closed border is, well, closed) locking us down again would be fucked and mean that everything that we have done is a waste of time, again.

                                  Local passion for the NPC games seem to be high. Let the Aussies have the RC, stay here.

                                  Money will come into it of course, but if we can get crowds to NPC then it might not be too different for the unions anyway. How much would NZRU suffer?

                                  I love the All Blacks and international rugby, but I can live with a year off and enjoy the NPC.

                                  Same here. I can handle the year after a WC year in an extraordinary situation of having a year with no test matches.

                                  I thought we would get towelled on Saturday but watched it and it and was pleasantly surprised at the level of skill. from both teams. Having AB's there day in and day out at training can only help.

                                  You are still going to have the rubbish like Hawkes Bay/Southland/Manawatu and Northland but the rest looks very entertaining.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @Machpants So, Mitch Hunt as well?

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                                    #1258

                                    @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @Machpants So, Mitch Hunt as well?

                                    I’d guess so, who knows when you’re looking at the bottom end of the pecking order!

                                    Hopefully they grow a pair and accept the time away. 10 weeks, B’days, XMas’, NY etc been there done that and was getting shot at whilst doing it!
                                    😛

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                                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                                      @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

                                      I really like that. The rugby so far has been good. The players get to stay at home. We have less risk off Covid infection (another discussion, a closed border is, well, closed) locking us down again would be fucked and mean that everything that we have done is a waste of time, again.

                                      Local passion for the NPC games seem to be high. Let the Aussies have the RC, stay here.

                                      Money will come into it of course, but if we can get crowds to NPC then it might not be too different for the unions anyway. How much would NZRU suffer?

                                      I love the All Blacks and international rugby, but I can live with a year off and enjoy the NPC.

                                      Same here. I can handle the year after a WC year in an extraordinary situation of having a year with no test matches.

                                      I thought we would get towelled on Saturday but watched it and it and was pleasantly surprised at the level of skill. from both teams. Having AB's there day in and day out at training can only help.

                                      You are still going to have the rubbish like Hawkes Bay/Southland/Manawatu and Northland but the rest looks very entertaining.

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                                      @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.

                                      I really like that. The rugby so far has been good. The players get to stay at home. We have less risk off Covid infection (another discussion, a closed border is, well, closed) locking us down again would be fucked and mean that everything that we have done is a waste of time, again.

                                      Local passion for the NPC games seem to be high. Let the Aussies have the RC, stay here.

                                      Money will come into it of course, but if we can get crowds to NPC then it might not be too different for the unions anyway. How much would NZRU suffer?

                                      I love the All Blacks and international rugby, but I can live with a year off and enjoy the NPC.

                                      Same here. I can handle the year after a WC year in an extraordinary situation of having a year with no test matches.

                                      I thought we would get towelled on Saturday but watched it and it and was pleasantly surprised at the level of skill. from both teams. Having AB's there day in and day out at training can only help.

                                      You are still going to have the rubbish like Hawkes Bay/Southland/Manawatu and Northland but the rest looks very entertaining.

                                      Don't forget Otago.

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                                        Perhaps the stars are aligning for us to lose the Bledisloe????

                                        Rennie as the coach, we have Foster.
                                        Both games in Oz = their home advantage
                                        Loss of key players but they are full strength.

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                                          Perhaps the stars are aligning for us to lose the Bledisloe????

                                          Rennie as the coach, we have Foster.
                                          Both games in Oz = their home advantage
                                          Loss of key players but they are full strength.

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                                          @Frank I thought the 1st 2 Bled games were in NZ mid-October?

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