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<p>You seem to be describing me .... aside from the German part.</p>
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<p>Two of them are factual, and I thought the 3rd would appeal to you ;).</p> -
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Two of them are factual, and I thought the 3rd would appeal to you ;).</p></blockquote>
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I saw you give Don a serve on pr yesterday , I don't know if you remember but he joined the fern a few years back and got laughed/hounded off when he tried to claim that because he earns fuck all as a photographer he's entitled to a state subsidised house because home ownership is a basic human right. Reading that thread was like watching a truck load of petrol slowly crash into a fireworks factory as he got more insistent that he was right.<br><br>
I swear social media is the worst thing to ever happen to the left, in another time a loser like him would be reduced to letters to the editor . -
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<p>I saw you give Don a serve on pr yesterday , I don't know if you remember but he joined the fern a few years back and got laughed/hounded off when he tried to claim that because he earns fuck all as a photographer he's entitled to a state subsidised house because home ownership is a basic human right. Reading that thread was like watching a truck load of petrol slowly crash into a fireworks factory as he got more insistent that he was right.<br><br><strong>I swear social media is the worst thing to ever happen to the left, in another time a loser like him would be reduced to letters to the editor .</strong></p>
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<p>that are usually abridged versions or simply not printed.</p> -
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that are usually abridged versions or simply not printed.</blockquote>
<br><p>Or worse that part where they print a whole bunch of names and say your points are noted and have been covered by other correspondents . I think that's code for we have forwarded your letter to the mental health authorities.</p> -
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<p>I saw you give Don a serve on pr yesterday , I don't know if you remember but he joined the fern a few years back and got laughed/hounded off when he tried to claim that because he earns fuck all as a photographer he's entitled to a state subsidised house because home ownership is a basic human right. Reading that thread was like watching a truck load of petrol slowly crash into a fireworks factory as he got more insistent that he was right.<br><br>
I swear social media is the worst thing to ever happen to the left, in another time a loser like him would be reduced to letters to the editor .</p>
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<p>For ages I just thought that Don was Winger but apparently more than two people can flip flop on flags in precisely the same way (I actually assumed a bunch of posters, any anti vaccers, were just Winger's PR login multis). </p> -
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<p>For ages I just thought that Don was Winger but apparently more than two people can flip flop on flags in precisely the same way (I actually assumed a bunch of posters, any anti vaccers, were just Winger's PR login multis). </p>
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<p>He posts as muttonbird on the standard too, he's actually even more feral there. He seems like quite an awful little man .</p>
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<p>Grouch has a blog now too, I lost the link unfortunately but it was pretty funny reading him rant about how neo libs were slowly dragging NZ into a fascist state and the press are on Keys ....sorry brand Keys payroll.</p> -
<p>Just received my voting paper in London and uploaded a Lockwood tick to the website.</p>
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<p>4 work colleagues this week (2 Brits, 1 French, 1 Italian) have all come up to saying variations of "What do you think of New Zealand's new flag? I thing it's fantastic", not knowing that it isn't a done deal.</p>
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<p>I will be so gutted if it gets voted down :knuppel: </p> -
Will be the same for me here in der Schweiz. I don't think kiwis at home realise how appealing the Lockwood flag is to foreigners.<br><br>
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<p>I think that looks mint! As I said in this thread, this flag looks much better 'flying' or in action than as a graphic!</p>
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<p>I don't think its even going to be close.</p>
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<p>Young voters (a lot of) seem to be against it, mainly because of the Key thing. Unfortunately anecdotally they have abandoned their inherent <strike>lazyness </strike> apathy and appear to actually be voting.</p>
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<p>Reasons I have been given by yoof for voting against change</p>
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<ul><li>People have died for the flag</li>
<li>Every country that has changed its flag has gone down the tubes</li>
<li>We will lose our history</li>
<li>Its all John Key</li>
<li>Its because we signed TPPA</li>
<li>It's too Maori</li>
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<ul><li>Every country that has changed its flag has gone down the tubes</li>
<li>Its all John Key</li>
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<p>Funny thing is, most of those probably already think the former, because of thelatter....</p> -
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<p>I don't think its even going to be close.</p>
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<p>Young voters (a lot of) seem to be against it, mainly because of the Key thing. Unfortunately anecdotally they have abandoned their inherent <strike>lazyness </strike> apathy and appear to actually be voting.</p>
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<p>Reasons I have been given by yoof for voting against change</p>
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<ul><li>People have died for the flag</li>
<li>Every country that has changed its flag has gone down the tubes</li>
<li>We will lose our history</li>
<li>Its all John Key</li>
<li>Its because we signed TPPA</li>
<li>It's too Maori</li>
</ul><p>I despair, I really despair.</p>
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<p>Too Maori! :idiot2:</p>
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<p>My colleague said her son (admittedly too young to vote) came home from school with a strong opinion on why we should keep our current flag, talking about our history etc. Influenced by his teachers views.</p> -
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<p>Too Maori! :idiot2:</p>
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<p>My colleague said her son (admittedly too young to vote) came home from school with a strong opinion on why we should keep our current flag, talking about our history etc. Influenced by his teachers views.</p>
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<p>Both my kids (10 and 7) like the new design...from what I gather, both of their teachers have tried to remain impartial in the discussions they have had at school over it, which is interesting given some of the other topical 'political views' I had heard my kids come home with!</p>
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<p>I haven't expressed to them which flag I preferred, even my wife when she voted earlier in the week asked which I was voting for.</p> -
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<p>Too Maori! :idiot2:</p>
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<p>My colleague said her son (admittedly too young to vote) came home from school with a strong opinion on why we should keep our current flag, talking about our history etc. Influenced by his teachers views.</p>
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<p>I think as my kids get older am going to really getting fucked off if they come home spouting political crap they have clearly been fed by a teacher.</p>
