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The Cane vs Savea Debate

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    @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

    I'd probably have had mental health issues in 2018 if I was him in the form he was in and saw Luke Whitelock and Evans getting test starts and I wasn't.

    that's All Black Captain Luke Whitelock

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    @nzzp said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

    @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

    I'd probably have had mental health issues in 2018 if I was him in the form he was in and saw Luke Whitelock and Evans getting test starts and I wasn't.

    that's All Black Captain Luke Whitelock

    He was better than Sam Broomhall or Steven Bates at least.

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      @nzzp said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

      @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

      I'd probably have had mental health issues in 2018 if I was him in the form he was in and saw Luke Whitelock and Evans getting test starts and I wasn't.

      that's All Black Captain Luke Whitelock

      He was better than Sam Broomhall or Steven Bates at least.

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      @MN5 shudder

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @ACT-Crusader said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @pukunui said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @DMX said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @ACT-Crusader said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @pukunui said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @pukunui said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @gt12 There was certainly a succession planning issue with Read, but there weren't any clear candidates either after Vito left. In saying that, Vito would have been 32 at last years' RWC. A younger 8 needed to be found. Hansen seemed to fart around trying a heap of guys at 6 but not 8.

        If only there had been a young guy who had been killing it in Super rugby over multiple seasons, playing for someone like the Blues, who could have been selected and given some support to iron out any small issues in their game/preparation.
        Even better if that guy already had a brother in the team.

        That might have been handy.

        Yes, certainly advantageous to have a brother in the team. And the more, the merrier. Adam Whitelock also could or should have been a stud had he only been given an opportunity alongside Sam, Luke and George, and supported the shit out of.

        If only Akira was a Whitelock or a Barrett.

        Not another thread hi-jacked...

        Hasn't Akira already admitted he wasn't in the correct mental space unless Hansen gets the blame for that as well?

        I wouldn’t be surprised if the AB coaches giving him shit publicly via the media contributed to that mental space he got to. Could have been a completely different story if they had given him less stick and more carrot like they seemed to do with every other player. They also seemed pretty keen on squire even after he pulled himself out for “mental space” issues.

        Is Tana part of the problem too? Because he wasn’t selecting him to start as well.

        Huh? Akira has been an automatic starting pick for the Blues at 8 up until Sotutu's arrival this year ... it has been mentioned many times that the Blues coaches probably played him too much.

        I'd probably have had mental health issues in 2018 if I was him in the form he was in and saw Luke Whitelock and Evans getting test starts and I wasn't.

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        @Nepia Yup can't recall him missing a game in the previous 3 seasons until this season, Infact, he barely missed a minute he was relied on that much.

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          Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

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            @antipodean I'm expecting a massive strop about Scott Robinson not being coach.

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              Wish I could rub a certain posters nose in his opinion.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

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                @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                Cane was the best seven and six out there today

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                  Oh come on. You can't compare their games. Ardie was at 8.

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                    😂😂😂

                    This thread should be in a new comedy sub forum.

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                      Haha thinking of this thread during the game made for a good chuckle.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                        Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                        Cane was the best seven and six out there today

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                        @Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair

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                          Cane was awesome today. He even showed great hands with that scoop off the deck, obviously he's been reading the Fern like every AB player, current or potential, should be doing.

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                            Anyone who understands that there are levels between domestic and international rugby could tell you that Cane is a quality operator.

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                              @Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair

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                              @mikey07 said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                              @Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair

                              I think Akira might have suited this game better, he can generate momentum from almost stationary probably better than most in NZ and that seemed to be our game plan this week,

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @mikey07 said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                @Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair

                                I think Akira might have suited this game better, he can generate momentum from almost stationary probably better than most in NZ and that seemed to be our game plan this week,

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                                @Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

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                                  @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                  Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                                  Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

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                                    @Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?

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                                    @African-Monkey said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?

                                    And yet, the official Canterbury / Crusaders stats I saw recently don't back that up.

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                                      Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

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                                        Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                          Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

                                          Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.

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