The Cane vs Savea Debate
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@mikey07 said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair
I think Akira might have suited this game better, he can generate momentum from almost stationary probably better than most in NZ and that seemed to be our game plan this week,
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Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
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@Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?
@African-Monkey said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?
And yet, the official Canterbury / Crusaders stats I saw recently don't back that up.
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@KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.
Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.
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@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.
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Stats are here.
I'm sure Mitch Brown is.who the ABs forward pack needs.... that will do it.
@KiwiMurph not the stats I was referring to, at all.
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@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.
@Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.
I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.
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Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.
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Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.
I don't think he's worried that @shark the Chiefs hater from the Fern doesn't rate him, he'll just do his business.
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.
I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.
Can't we just blame it on Mo for not taking the kick like how Lucky was blamed in 07?
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@sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.
Was true 7 days ago and is still true.
@sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.
Was true 7 days ago and is still true.
Quote myself to prove my own point. I see how that works.
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@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Move your goal posts as much as you need in order to not look foolish.
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@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.
I don't think he's worried that @shark the Chiefs hater from the Fern doesn't rate him, he'll just do his business.
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.
I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.
Can't we just blame it on Mo for not taking the kick like how Lucky was blamed in 07?
@Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.
I don't think he's worried that @shark the Chiefs hater from the Fern doesn't rate him, he'll just do his business.
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.
I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.
Can't we just blame it on Mo for not taking the kick like how Lucky was blamed in 07?
Or the story in the paper I quoted in the first post of this thread, maybe.
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@sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.
Was true 7 days ago and is still true.
Quote myself to prove my own point. I see how that works.
@ACT-Crusader said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.
Was true 7 days ago and is still true.
Quote myself to prove my own point. I see how that works.
I think the fact Sam Cane was Man of Match today rather proved the point I was making.
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It's one game. A game in which a high performance rating on Stuff was 7 and he got a 7.
Before all the Cane supporters finish their self-congratulatory game of soggy weetbix, just think about the context of a single game and also that Savea doesn't get the right of reply at openside (and also earned 7).
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@KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.
Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.
Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.
Wait a minute... you come on and make up a story about seeing some amazing stats, yet don't reveal what they are or are even about... and @KiwiMurph is the one that's ass plucking? Righto.
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@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.
Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?
Now you think Savea is a better captain the Cane?!
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@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.
Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.
Wait a minute... you come on and make up a story about seeing some amazing stats, yet don't reveal what they are or are even about... and @KiwiMurph is the one that's ass plucking? Righto.
@Bones said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
@KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:
Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.
Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.
Wait a minute... you come on and make up a story about seeing some amazing stats, yet don't reveal what they are or are even about... and @KiwiMurph is the one that's ass plucking? Righto.
I've said several times they're CRFU stats. The coaches use them. But all you need to know is I saw them, and they were 'official'.
