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The Cane vs Savea Debate

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    African Monkey
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    Anyone who understands that there are levels between domestic and international rugby could tell you that Cane is a quality operator.

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    • M mikey07

      @Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair

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      Nepia
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      @mikey07 said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

      @Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair

      I think Akira might have suited this game better, he can generate momentum from almost stationary probably better than most in NZ and that seemed to be our game plan this week,

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @mikey07 said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

        @Kirwan I don’t think I saw Frizell do anything to be fair

        I think Akira might have suited this game better, he can generate momentum from almost stationary probably better than most in NZ and that seemed to be our game plan this week,

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        @Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

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          shark
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          @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

          Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

          Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

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            @Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?

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            shark
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            @African-Monkey said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

            @Nepia He's also more dominant in contact on D, something that is crucial at the highest level. Are we allowed to say good things aboout Akira or will we get criticised for it?

            And yet, the official Canterbury / Crusaders stats I saw recently don't back that up.

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              #198

              Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

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                Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                  Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

                  Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.

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                  • KiwiMurphK Online
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                    Stats are here.

                    I'm sure Mitch Brown is.who the ABs forward pack needs.... that will do it.

                    alt text

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                    • sharkS shark

                      @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                      Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                      Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

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                      @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                      @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                      Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                      Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

                      Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Stats are here.

                        I'm sure Mitch Brown is.who the ABs forward pack needs.... that will do it.

                        alt text

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                        shark
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                        @KiwiMurph not the stats I was referring to, at all.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                          @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                          Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                          Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

                          Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.

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                          @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                          @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                          @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                          Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                          Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

                          Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.

                          I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.

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                            @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                            Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.

                            Was true 7 days ago and is still true.

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                            • sharkS shark

                              Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.

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                              @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                              Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.

                              I don't think he's worried that @shark the Chiefs hater from the Fern doesn't rate him, he'll just do his business.

                              @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                              @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                              @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                              @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                              Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                              Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

                              Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.

                              I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.

                              Can't we just blame it on Mo for not taking the kick like how Lucky was blamed in 07?

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.

                                Was true 7 days ago and is still true.

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                                @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.

                                Was true 7 days ago and is still true.

                                Quote myself to prove my own point. I see how that works.

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                                • sharkS shark

                                  @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                  Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                                  Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

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                                  @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                  @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                  Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                                  Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

                                  Move your goal posts as much as you need in order to not look foolish.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.

                                    I don't think he's worried that @shark the Chiefs hater from the Fern doesn't rate him, he'll just do his business.

                                    @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                                    Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

                                    Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.

                                    I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.

                                    Can't we just blame it on Mo for not taking the kick like how Lucky was blamed in 07?

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                                    @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    Cane did play well, to be fair. But so may have Savea. And Cane REALLY needed to put in a performance as I'm sure he'll realise he's not everyone's choice.

                                    I don't think he's worried that @shark the Chiefs hater from the Fern doesn't rate him, he'll just do his business.

                                    @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @Nepia said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    @antipodean said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                    Shall we revisit this thread now? I'm expecting some fucking apologies.

                                    Shall we change it to captaincy qualities?

                                    Yeah we could go there, although it did take your boy McCaw a few years to get up to speed as captain so Cane has time.

                                    I'm just shitty we don't order guys to take dropped goals. And yeah, same scenario with McCaw in 07.

                                    Can't we just blame it on Mo for not taking the kick like how Lucky was blamed in 07?

                                    Or the story in the paper I quoted in the first post of this thread, maybe.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                      @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                      Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.

                                      Was true 7 days ago and is still true.

                                      Quote myself to prove my own point. I see how that works.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                      @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                      @sparky said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                      Cane's no nonsense attitude, exceptional workrate and high ratio of dominant tackles make him the first name on the AB team sheet IMHO.

                                      Was true 7 days ago and is still true.

                                      Quote myself to prove my own point. I see how that works.

                                      I think the fact Sam Cane was Man of Match today rather proved the point I was making.

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                                        It's one game. A game in which a high performance rating on Stuff was 7 and he got a 7.

                                        Before all the Cane supporters finish their self-congratulatory game of soggy weetbix, just think about the context of a single game and also that Savea doesn't get the right of reply at openside (and also earned 7).

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                                        • sharkS shark

                                          @KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                          Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

                                          Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.

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                                          Bones
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                                          @shark said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in The Cane vs Savea Debate:

                                          Those same stats that say Ardie is this unreal dominant defender? Whatever.

                                          Nope. Not sure where u plucked that out of, other than your ass.

                                          Wait a minute... you come on and make up a story about seeing some amazing stats, yet don't reveal what they are or are even about... and @KiwiMurph is the one that's ass plucking? Righto.

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