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Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Kiwiwomble based on what I have seen in this years M10 Cup, Fakatava and Nock would be the 9's I'd like to see more of, but sadly both have had limited chances at Super level for various reasons, although being back up at your Super team doesnt always stop you getting into the big kids team!

    Fakatava has a good passing game and very strong defensively, Nock has a great passing game, kicking game is up there, very quick and seems to be defending more this year too.

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Fakatava

    Shame hes in the same team as Smith. As hes got mUCh better with game time in the NPC

    Perenara lets things get to him during a game. Its then when he does the silly stuff. I wonder if leading the haka is the best thing for him. Maybe let someone else do it so he can start a bit calmer

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      Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long

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        @Kiwiwomble did someone say he is not yet qualified to play for NZ, and may even opt for Tonga (which IMO is the best route if he is still awaiting qualification)

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long

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          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

          Fakatava is an obvious one as, assuming the Landers have re signed him, as he gets to learn form smith all year long

          That's a good point, but better than more game time? Dunno.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @Kiwiwomble did someone say he is not yet qualified to play for NZ, and may even opt for Tonga (which IMO is the best route if he is still awaiting qualification)

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            @taniwharugby google says he moved to NZ four years ago...whats the timeframes?

            @Snowy im hoping the Landers realise smith wont be around for ever too and so will start giving Fakatava more gametime

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @taniwharugby google says he moved to NZ four years ago...whats the timeframes?

              @Snowy im hoping the Landers realise smith wont be around for ever too and so will start giving Fakatava more gametime

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              @Kiwiwomble qualification clock doesnt start until he leaves school I think.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Kiwiwomble qualification clock doesnt start until he leaves school I think.

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                @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

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                  @Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                    @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

                    Still got to do the residency time I think. Can't just become a citizen and play for adopted country as far as I know. Olympic anomoly aside.

                    3 Year rule is still in force until end of this year then it goes to 5.

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                      @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

                      No, citizenship has nothing to do with WR qualification process.

                      If on scholarship, and family home is not in NZ then it doesn't count towards residency. So time starts from when leaves school (and is a self-supporting adult).

                      Whether he qualifies in 3 years or 5 years will come down to a bit of lucky timing. The 5 year got pushed back a year because some poor petals might not complete their being poached on time - because of potentially cancelled tests this November due to covid.

                      http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2020/08/10/world-rugby-extends-residency-eligibility-window/#:~:text=World Rugby have confirmed a,year later than originally intended.

                      I think he'll be 5 years. Which gives us time to sort out his hair, if he were to come over to the darkness. But I'd prefer he played for Tonga.

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                        @taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely

                        No, citizenship has nothing to do with WR qualification process.

                        If on scholarship, and family home is not in NZ then it doesn't count towards residency. So time starts from when leaves school (and is a self-supporting adult).

                        Whether he qualifies in 3 years or 5 years will come down to a bit of lucky timing. The 5 year got pushed back a year because some poor petals might not complete their being poached on time - because of potentially cancelled tests this November due to covid.

                        http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2020/08/10/world-rugby-extends-residency-eligibility-window/#:~:text=World Rugby have confirmed a,year later than originally intended.

                        I think he'll be 5 years. Which gives us time to sort out his hair, if he were to come over to the darkness. But I'd prefer he played for Tonga.

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                        @Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                        Which gives us time to sort out his hair,

                        Nice.

                        @Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                        I'd prefer he played for Tonga.

                        I think that we are going to need him.

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                          who else then if we have to wait a few years?

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                            How is TTT? Genuine question. Haven't seen him play this year.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.

                              Yes. Unless the rules have changed again it will be like Reece, who needed to wait 3 years after leaving school.

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                                Just realised Fakatava plays for Dunedin (my old club), so he plays for the magpies but doesn't have a local club? i guess club rugby lines up with the super calendar better, never really giving it much thought

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                                  I really think they need to look at Nock, I think he'd fit the AB's game well.

                                  He's quick, has a slick pass, good running game, and a great kicking game.

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                                    I really think they need to look at Nock, I think he'd fit the AB's game well.

                                    He's quick, has a slick pass, good running game, and a great kicking game.

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                                    @Gunner Nock 2020 is much better than previous versions. Leon seems to have the squad working hard in the offseason, and it's driving onfield performance.

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                                    • SnowyS Snowy

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

                                      Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.

                                      Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.

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                                      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

                                      Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.

                                      Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.

                                      Roe for Waikato has been pretty electric around the ruck with some lovely running and deft passing. I havent seen a lot of him but what I did see was a player with plenty of confidence to play and seems to read the game well. Deserves some minutes in super rugby.

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                                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                                        @Snowy said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

                                        Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.

                                        Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.

                                        Roe for Waikato has been pretty electric around the ruck with some lovely running and deft passing. I havent seen a lot of him but what I did see was a player with plenty of confidence to play and seems to read the game well. Deserves some minutes in super rugby.

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                                        @chimoaus He has a powerful repertoire of kicks also, and seems to direct the forwards as they approach a breakdown, to improve options.

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                                          Some more on the red card

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

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