Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November
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@Kiwiwomble did someone say he is not yet qualified to play for NZ, and may even opt for Tonga (which IMO is the best route if he is still awaiting qualification)
@taniwharugby google says he moved to NZ four years ago...whats the timeframes?
@Snowy im hoping the Landers realise smith wont be around for ever too and so will start giving Fakatava more gametime
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@taniwharugby google says he moved to NZ four years ago...whats the timeframes?
@Snowy im hoping the Landers realise smith wont be around for ever too and so will start giving Fakatava more gametime
@Kiwiwomble qualification clock doesnt start until he leaves school I think.
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@Kiwiwomble qualification clock doesnt start until he leaves school I think.
@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
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@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
@Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.
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@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
Still got to do the residency time I think. Can't just become a citizen and play for adopted country as far as I know. Olympic anomoly aside.
3 Year rule is still in force until end of this year then it goes to 5.
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@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
No, citizenship has nothing to do with WR qualification process.
If on scholarship, and family home is not in NZ then it doesn't count towards residency. So time starts from when leaves school (and is a self-supporting adult).
Whether he qualifies in 3 years or 5 years will come down to a bit of lucky timing. The 5 year got pushed back a year because some poor petals might not complete their being poached on time - because of potentially cancelled tests this November due to covid.
I think he'll be 5 years. Which gives us time to sort out his hair, if he were to come over to the darkness. But I'd prefer he played for Tonga.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby unless he's become a NZ citizen surely
No, citizenship has nothing to do with WR qualification process.
If on scholarship, and family home is not in NZ then it doesn't count towards residency. So time starts from when leaves school (and is a self-supporting adult).
Whether he qualifies in 3 years or 5 years will come down to a bit of lucky timing. The 5 year got pushed back a year because some poor petals might not complete their being poached on time - because of potentially cancelled tests this November due to covid.
I think he'll be 5 years. Which gives us time to sort out his hair, if he were to come over to the darkness. But I'd prefer he played for Tonga.
@Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Which gives us time to sort out his hair,
Nice.
@Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I'd prefer he played for Tonga.
I think that we are going to need him.
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who else then if we have to wait a few years?
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@Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.
Yes. Unless the rules have changed again it will be like Reece, who needed to wait 3 years after leaving school.
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I really think they need to look at Nock, I think he'd fit the AB's game well.
He's quick, has a slick pass, good running game, and a great kicking game.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right
Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.
Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.
@Snowy said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right
Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.
Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.
Roe for Waikato has been pretty electric around the ruck with some lovely running and deft passing. I havent seen a lot of him but what I did see was a player with plenty of confidence to play and seems to read the game well. Deserves some minutes in super rugby.
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@Snowy said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right
Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.
Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.
Roe for Waikato has been pretty electric around the ruck with some lovely running and deft passing. I havent seen a lot of him but what I did see was a player with plenty of confidence to play and seems to read the game well. Deserves some minutes in super rugby.
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@Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
How is TTT? Genuine question. Haven't seen him play this year.
He's on the bench for us at the moment behind Luke Campbell. I think he has been returning from injury - there are no injury updates from the Union so it's been difficult to tell what's form and what's injury in the selections. He knew how to set up the final match winning try in the 83rd minute yesterday though:
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Some more on the red card
@Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Some more on the red card
Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.
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@Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Some more on the red card
Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Some more on the red card
Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.
At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough
Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Some more on the red card
Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.
At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough
Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough
@Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Some more on the red card
Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.
At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough
Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough
Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.
I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.
For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.
