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Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    Kiwiwomble
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    who else then if we have to wait a few years?

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      How is TTT? Genuine question. Haven't seen him play this year.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.

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        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

        @Kiwiwomble not sure, I think for WR it requires that 3 years post leaving school, otherwise it'd be an easy loophole to get around.

        Yes. Unless the rules have changed again it will be like Reece, who needed to wait 3 years after leaving school.

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        • KiwiwombleK Online
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          #1509

          Just realised Fakatava plays for Dunedin (my old club), so he plays for the magpies but doesn't have a local club? i guess club rugby lines up with the super calendar better, never really giving it much thought

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            I really think they need to look at Nock, I think he'd fit the AB's game well.

            He's quick, has a slick pass, good running game, and a great kicking game.

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            • G Gunner

              I really think they need to look at Nock, I think he'd fit the AB's game well.

              He's quick, has a slick pass, good running game, and a great kicking game.

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              @Gunner Nock 2020 is much better than previous versions. Leon seems to have the squad working hard in the offseason, and it's driving onfield performance.

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

                Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.

                Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.

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                @Snowy said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

                Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.

                Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.

                Roe for Waikato has been pretty electric around the ruck with some lovely running and deft passing. I havent seen a lot of him but what I did see was a player with plenty of confidence to play and seems to read the game well. Deserves some minutes in super rugby.

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                • chimoausC chimoaus

                  @Snowy said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                  someone young enough to work on the things theyre not doing right

                  Suggestions from everybody welcome. I'm struggling to think of any right now.

                  Doesn't change the point but we a re lacking options I think.

                  Roe for Waikato has been pretty electric around the ruck with some lovely running and deft passing. I havent seen a lot of him but what I did see was a player with plenty of confidence to play and seems to read the game well. Deserves some minutes in super rugby.

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                  @chimoaus He has a powerful repertoire of kicks also, and seems to direct the forwards as they approach a breakdown, to improve options.

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                    #1514

                    Some more on the red card

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

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                    • RapidoR Rapido

                      How is TTT? Genuine question. Haven't seen him play this year.

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                      @Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                      How is TTT? Genuine question. Haven't seen him play this year.

                      He's on the bench for us at the moment behind Luke Campbell. I think he has been returning from injury - there are no injury updates from the Union so it's been difficult to tell what's form and what's injury in the selections. He knew how to set up the final match winning try in the 83rd minute yesterday though:

                      https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=830146624465707

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                      • WingerW Winger

                        Some more on the red card

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

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                        @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                        Some more on the red card

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                        Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          Some more on the red card

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                          Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          Some more on the red card

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                          Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                          At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                          Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

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                          • WingerW Winger

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            Some more on the red card

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                            Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                            At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                            Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

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                            @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            Some more on the red card

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                            Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                            At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                            Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

                            Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

                            I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

                            For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              Some more on the red card

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                              Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                              At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                              Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

                              Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

                              I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

                              For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              Some more on the red card

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                              Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                              At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                              Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

                              Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

                              I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

                              For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

                              Ofa skates pretty close on a lot of his hits. He's not leaving himself an awful lot of room for error. And this is exactly what World Rugby wants, that target point to drop right down.

                              Yes, he is a big unit, but he needs to change, not the laws.

                              I personally don't like it, but at least i can understand the rationale.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                Some more on the red card

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                                Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                                At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                                Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

                                Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

                                I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

                                For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

                                Ofa skates pretty close on a lot of his hits. He's not leaving himself an awful lot of room for error. And this is exactly what World Rugby wants, that target point to drop right down.

                                Yes, he is a big unit, but he needs to change, not the laws.

                                I personally don't like it, but at least i can understand the rationale.

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                                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                Some more on the red card

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                                Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                                At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                                Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

                                Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

                                I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

                                For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

                                Ofa skates pretty close on a lot of his hits. He's not leaving himself an awful lot of room for error. And this is exactly what World Rugby wants, that target point to drop right down.

                                Yes, he is a big unit, but he needs to change, not the laws.

                                I personally don't like it, but at least i can understand the rationale.

                                I agree. Some serious hip flexibility work might be coming his way from Nic Gill

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  Some more on the red card

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                                  Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                                  At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                                  Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

                                  Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

                                  I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

                                  For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

                                  Ofa skates pretty close on a lot of his hits. He's not leaving himself an awful lot of room for error. And this is exactly what World Rugby wants, that target point to drop right down.

                                  Yes, he is a big unit, but he needs to change, not the laws.

                                  I personally don't like it, but at least i can understand the rationale.

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                                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  I personally don't like it

                                  Why not.

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    I personally don't like it

                                    Why not.

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                                    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    I personally don't like it

                                    Why not.

                                    because for me, and this is just my personal opinion, red cards should be for serious foul play. Neither one on the weekend meet my threshold for that.

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                                      Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        Some more on the red card

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

                                        Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

                                        At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

                                        Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

                                        Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

                                        I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

                                        For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

                                        Ofa skates pretty close on a lot of his hits. He's not leaving himself an awful lot of room for error. And this is exactly what World Rugby wants, that target point to drop right down.

                                        Yes, he is a big unit, but he needs to change, not the laws.

                                        I personally don't like it, but at least i can understand the rationale.

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                                        @mariner4life yeah it's a tough one.

                                        Priority 1 - health and safety of players
                                        Priority 2 - maintain the integrity of a a full contact sport

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                                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                                          Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

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                                          @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

                                          and i absolutely don't disagree with that. I have a problem with a tackle gone wrong being the same punishment as a full-blooded punch. I am very aware i am in the minority there though

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