Hurricanes 2021
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@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@Nepia this is pretty funny. Hawkes Bay don't even think he's good enough to start in the 10 jersey, what makes you think McClutchie is good enough for a Super contract. He hasn't set the house on fire so far...
Why do the Canes annoy you?
He set the house of fire as much as Love did at the same age.
As for why the Canes annoy me, have a read of your response to @Higgins
@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@hydro11 yeah but you don't see me harping on about Wellington player Teariki Ben Nicholas losing out to Hawke's Bays Devan Flanders. Province only plays a small part in signings, the players still have to perform..
Of course you wouldn't, your province always has the bulk of the spots in the Canes. A few years ago the Magpies had nearly 15 Super players, and only 3 of them were in their home franchise the Canes (and one of them was probably Ben May).
@Nepia it's because we are the big brother province in the Hurricanes. It's the same case with the likes of Northland/North Harbour with Auckland or Counties/BOP with Waikato. The bigger provinces are always going to get more players in their franchises.
Funny how you don't mention last year when there was a good representation of HB players in the Canes - May, Walker-Leawere, Rakete-Stones, Flanders, Evans, Lowe and Toala.
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@Stargazer Damn stole my thunder...thoughts on this guy anyone I haven’t really seen enough of him to make judgement, I do know he’s been in the system the last couple of year.
@mikey07 he's a good solid player. I wonder if they've signed him as an 8 or 7.. Probably similar to the Ardie Savea mould, not the biggest at 8 but he's powerful and has a high skillset.
Hopefully he's taken Taramais spot.
So that's our loose forwards sorted for next year. Not much size looking at the list, the Canes are obviously looking to play up tempo next year.
- Gareth Evans
- Ardie Savea
- Devan Flanders
- Du Plessis Kirifi
- Brayden Iose
- Vaea Fifita
- Reed Prinsep
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@Stargazer Damn stole my thunder...thoughts on this guy anyone I haven’t really seen enough of him to make judgement, I do know he’s been in the system the last couple of year.
@mikey07 Iose hasn't played much over the last few years because of injury, so I've not seen much of him in recent games. He looked promising when I saw him play, but not Flanders-like promising, if you get what I mean. I wonder whether he replaces Taramai? I think I saw on instagram that he's on the move (MLR??). I may be wrong about that though.
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@mikey07 he's a good solid player. I wonder if they've signed him as an 8 or 7.. Probably similar to the Ardie Savea mould, not the biggest at 8 but he's powerful and has a high skillset.
Hopefully he's taken Taramais spot.
So that's our loose forwards sorted for next year. Not much size looking at the list, the Canes are obviously looking to play up tempo next year.
- Gareth Evans
- Ardie Savea
- Devan Flanders
- Du Plessis Kirifi
- Brayden Iose
- Vaea Fifita
- Reed Prinsep
@Canes4life Taramai hasn’t been resigned so that’s awesome
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@mikey07 Iose hasn't played much over the last few years because of injury, so I've not seen much of him in recent games. He looked promising when I saw him play, but not Flanders-like promising, if you get what I mean. I wonder whether he replaces Taramai? I think I saw on instagram that he's on the move (MLR??). I may be wrong about that though.
@Stargazer I get what you mean, in my defence I hadn’t heard of Flanders before he got signed but I can definitely see the promise now
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So the Canes need:
- two more halfbacks (one as a replacement for Booth)
- 1 lock (assuming that will be Isaia Walker-Leawere)
- 1 prop
- 1 outside back (hopefully that's Salesi Rayasi)
- 1 First five / or 1 outside back (depending where they want to use Ruben Love)
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@Canes4life If you guys are correct Tofa will take the outside back spot, Rakete-Stones should get an extension as he will only get better with age.I’m kinda hoping we can get Lord just for his height unfortunately IWL will miss out which sucks as I’d rather have him them Blackwell.
As for the 9s Campbell and Collins as a replacement -
@Canes4life If you guys are correct Tofa will take the outside back spot, Rakete-Stones should get an extension as he will only get better with age.I’m kinda hoping we can get Lord just for his height unfortunately IWL will miss out which sucks as I’d rather have him them Blackwell.
As for the 9s Campbell and Collins as a replacement@mikey07 I think IWL will get that locking spot, Lord looks Chiefs bound and he's too tall for the Canes anyway.
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@Nepia it's because we are the big brother province in the Hurricanes. It's the same case with the likes of Northland/North Harbour with Auckland or Counties/BOP with Waikato. The bigger provinces are always going to get more players in their franchises.
Funny how you don't mention last year when there was a good representation of HB players in the Canes - May, Walker-Leawere, Rakete-Stones, Flanders, Evans, Lowe and Toala.
@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@Nepia it's because we are the big brother province in the Hurricanes. It's the same case with the likes of Northland/North Harbour with Auckland or Counties/BOP with Waikato. The bigger provinces are always going to get more players in their franchises.
Funny how you don't mention last year when there was a good representation of HB players in the Canes - May, Walker-Leawere, Rakete-Stones, Flanders, Evans, Lowe and Toala.
That was the one anomaly year, clearly someone did there math wrong - "yes Blackwell is 2m and yep we've got our quota of Magpies, wait what, Blackwell isn't 2m and there's 6 Magpies plus May. You're fired!".
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@Stargazer Damn stole my thunder...thoughts on this guy anyone I haven’t really seen enough of him to make judgement, I do know he’s been in the system the last couple of year.
@mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:
@Stargazer Damn stole my thunder...thoughts on this guy anyone I haven’t really seen enough of him to make judgement, I do know he’s been in the system the last couple of year.
Hes 1.88 m. Maybe the coaches see him as another short lock option
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@mikey07 he's a good solid player. I wonder if they've signed him as an 8 or 7.. Probably similar to the Ardie Savea mould, not the biggest at 8 but he's powerful and has a high skillset.
Hopefully he's taken Taramais spot.
So that's our loose forwards sorted for next year. Not much size looking at the list, the Canes are obviously looking to play up tempo next year.
- Gareth Evans
- Ardie Savea
- Devan Flanders
- Du Plessis Kirifi
- Brayden Iose
- Vaea Fifita
- Reed Prinsep
@Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:
So that's our loose forwards sorted for next year. Not much size looking at the list, the Canes are obviously looking to play up tempo next year.
Gareth Evans
Ardie Savea
Devan Flanders
Du Plessis Kirifi
Brayden Iose
Vaea Fifita
Reed PrinsepOK options. But Flanders (or someone) really needs to step up and replace Prinsep. And I still prefer Fifita as a lock
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It looks like my sauce was good on this one.
Four years after getting his big break with Bay of Plenty, Luke Campbell is set to return home to fill one of the Hurricanes’ halfback vacancies in Super Rugby 2021.
The Hurricanes declined to confirm or deny the Campbell news on Sunday, having announced utility back Ruben Love and loose forward Brayden Iose as signings in recent days. Full Aotearoa squads are scheduled to be announced on December 3, and the Hurricanes said any new additions would be made public then.
Booth’s injury was expected to sideline him for at least four months, making him highly unlikely to be available for the 2021 opener against the Blues in Wellington on February 27.
As it stands, Counties-Manukau’s Jonathan Taumateine is the only fit halfback on the Hurricanes’ books.
Campbell made his name in the capital, playing first XV for Wellington College and making the New Zealand Under-20 side in 2015 under the coaching of Scott Robertson.
He won a Jubilee Cup with Old Boys-University that year, alongside Wellington and Hurricanes winger Wes Goosen, then was snapped up by Bay of Plenty coach Clayton McMillan for the 2016 season.
Campbell was first-choice No 9 for McMillan this season and kept former Hurricanes and now Chiefs halfback Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi out of the starting lineup for Saturday’s semi, a 19-10 defeat in Nelson.
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Caption reads "Been a pleasure, until next time." Am I reading into this too much when I say it eems like he's leaving the Canes? Wasn't there a rumour about him moving south?
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@Yeetyaah I think you're reading too much in it. It's the end of the season. That's all. Next time is next season.
@Stargazer he's re-signed with the Canes.
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Caption reads "Been a pleasure, until next time." Am I reading into this too much when I say it eems like he's leaving the Canes? Wasn't there a rumour about him moving south?
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Now that the rugby season has come to an end, what will the Canes look like next season?
At the moment our strongest 23 looks like:
- Fraser Armstrong 2. Dane Coles 3. Tyrel Lomax 4. Kane Le'aupepe 5. Scott Scrafton 6. Gareth Evans 7. Ardie Savea 8. Devan Flanders 9. Jamie Booth (might not be ready for seasons kick-off) 10. Jackson Garden-Bachop (wish we had a better option) 11. Salesi Rayasi (if he doesn't commit to 7s) 12. Ngani Laumape 13. Peter Umaga Jensen 14. Wes Goosen 15. Jordie Barrett
Reserves: 16. Asafo Aumua 17. Xavier Numia 18. Alex Fidow 19. Isaia Walker-Leawere 20. Du Plessis Kirifi 21. Luke Campbell 22. Simon Hickey / Ruben Love 23. Vince Aso / Danny Toala / Billy Proctor
Concerns:
- team selections (I'm afraid the likes of Prinsep / Blackwell will be selected before some of the above)
- 9s / 10s - Simply not enough experience in the two key positions on the field. I'd like to see us pick up McClutchie before December 2 with the outlook of trying to lure back Fakatava from the Highlanders in 2022.
- Julian Savea - I hope they don't feel obliged to start Savea, he showed in the Mitre 10 Cup that he is not even close to the athlete he used to be.
Positives:
- if we select the right players then that pack looks fairly strong, plenty of impact on the bench aswell.
- if we can get Rayasi in the mix then the Canes will have plenty of weapons in the backline to score points.
- Fraser Armstrong 2. Dane Coles 3. Tyrel Lomax 4. Kane Le'aupepe 5. Scott Scrafton 6. Gareth Evans 7. Ardie Savea 8. Devan Flanders 9. Jamie Booth (might not be ready for seasons kick-off) 10. Jackson Garden-Bachop (wish we had a better option) 11. Salesi Rayasi (if he doesn't commit to 7s) 12. Ngani Laumape 13. Peter Umaga Jensen 14. Wes Goosen 15. Jordie Barrett
