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    @canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @canefan anyone know why abrams didn't do all three films, I also think they would have been more cohesive if ha had just done them all

    This is the thing I can’t get my head around. You would have thought they would have had the entire trilogy fleshed out before they started but they hadn’t done anything of the sort. Absolutely bizarre.

    I think there was an element of knowing that the first trilogy was made up as it went and was the best. The prequels were planned and panned.
    But giving someone free rein to completely change the story direction in the middle then have to make shit up to tie the first and second together was crazy.
    Then, in the middle of it we had the Solo backstory that didn't mesh with any of if even though it at least tried to. (eg the Maul crime syndicate part)

    It felt like the safe play. Remake the original trilogy for the new generation. Lazy lazy lazy

    Yeah, although Ep VII was a Ep IV copy at least there were some decent set-ups to work on (that were then ignored). Who was the old guy with the map and why did he have it? How did the lightsaber end up where it did?
    I would like to think that that was all meant to be a trusted network set up by Luke to reach him when he was really needed.

    Not to mention the fact they totally wasted Saw Gerrera, who was a notable character in Rebels

    and clone wars before that, its so weird because his rebels appearances are at a similar time to rogue ones development...how can they diverge like that

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    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Back to Mando....

    One nerd on a site I follow on FB ( which by default makes me a nerd too ) mentioned how brilliant it is how Mando is essentially a gunslinger in an old western and Ashoka is a Samurai even to the point where they faced their respective foes in a dusty town and a beautiful garden.

    Fuck Mando is such a brilliantly made show....so good having one to watch each week.

    They even went back to the source on this one, some shot remakes for Akira Kurosawa’s movies.

    There’s so many little subtle things that make me love the show. Did anyone notice the Yoda theme music play a couple of bars when Ashoka mentioned his name ?

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    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Back to Mando....

    One nerd on a site I follow on FB ( which by default makes me a nerd too ) mentioned how brilliant it is how Mando is essentially a gunslinger in an old western and Ashoka is a Samurai even to the point where they faced their respective foes in a dusty town and a beautiful garden.

    Fuck Mando is such a brilliantly made show....so good having one to watch each week.

    They even went back to the source on this one, some shot remakes for Akira Kurosawa’s movies.

    There’s so many little subtle things that make me love the show. Did anyone notice the Yoda theme music play a couple of bars when Ashoka mentioned his name ?

    No. Will listen closer when I rewatch with CF Jnr. That's what you get when you have a fan of cinema like Favreau (Swingers was basically filled with homages to his favourite films) and Filone who is the biggest SW fanboi ever

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    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Back to Mando....

    One nerd on a site I follow on FB ( which by default makes me a nerd too ) mentioned how brilliant it is how Mando is essentially a gunslinger in an old western and Ashoka is a Samurai even to the point where they faced their respective foes in a dusty town and a beautiful garden.

    Fuck Mando is such a brilliantly made show....so good having one to watch each week.

    They even went back to the source on this one, some shot remakes for Akira Kurosawa’s movies.

    There’s so many little subtle things that make me love the show. Did anyone notice the Yoda theme music play a couple of bars when Ashoka mentioned his name ?

    did anyone notice Morai? I didn't but so cool when it was pointed out

    Morai 2.jpg Morai 1.jpg

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Back to Mando....

    One nerd on a site I follow on FB ( which by default makes me a nerd too ) mentioned how brilliant it is how Mando is essentially a gunslinger in an old western and Ashoka is a Samurai even to the point where they faced their respective foes in a dusty town and a beautiful garden.

    Fuck Mando is such a brilliantly made show....so good having one to watch each week.

    They even went back to the source on this one, some shot remakes for Akira Kurosawa’s movies.

    There’s so many little subtle things that make me love the show. Did anyone notice the Yoda theme music play a couple of bars when Ashoka mentioned his name ?

    did anyone notice Morai? I didn't but so cool when it was pointed out

    Morai 2.jpg Morai 1.jpg

    No.

    But that is PRECISELY what I was talking about.

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    It’s perfect for rewatching, which is a good model for a streaming service.

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    @canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Back to Mando....

    One nerd on a site I follow on FB ( which by default makes me a nerd too ) mentioned how brilliant it is how Mando is essentially a gunslinger in an old western and Ashoka is a Samurai even to the point where they faced their respective foes in a dusty town and a beautiful garden.

    Fuck Mando is such a brilliantly made show....so good having one to watch each week.

    They even went back to the source on this one, some shot remakes for Akira Kurosawa’s movies.

    There’s so many little subtle things that make me love the show. Did anyone notice the Yoda theme music play a couple of bars when Ashoka mentioned his name ?

    No. Will listen closer when I rewatch with CF Jnr. That's what you get when you have a fan of cinema like Favreau (Swingers was basically filled with homages to his favourite films) and Filone who is the biggest SW fanboi ever

    Do so, it's such a nice little subtle touch. I guess it's not his "theme" as such, but you'll hear it and recognise it.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    What did Ashoka end up doing with the Magistrate ? Chucked in one of those prison torture things I’d expect.

    Was she some sort of force user too or ‘merely’ yet another awesome female fighter ?

    This show has truckloads....Cara, the armourer, Bo Katan, Bo Katans Mando mate, Ashoka....hardcore feminists must be furious there’s nothing to whinge about in Mando.....

    Read back. They are still finding problems. Armour with room for breasts for example.

    That Twitter post got absolutely murdered online, some great replies to it - the best from other women.

    Dawson is currently going through a attempted cancellation as well, some from Lucasarts employees as well. All over a discredited lawsuit.

    And obviously Gina is copping it because she has opinions that differ from groupthink.

    The irony is that the targets here are giving them what they have always wanted, strong popular female characters. Each one of Katee, Gina and Rosario has a character that is not shoe-horned into the plot and a character independant enough they they all likely to get their own series.

    The left like to eat their own.

    We could take this to the SW Universe politics thread if there was one but why the last comment?
    Sure, idiots like that are often left leaning in their politics but they aren't representative. Just call them what they are. Idiots.

    If you can show me even one right wing Twitter troll/idiot trying to get someone on Star Wars cancelled then sure. At the moment they all seem to be leftist idiots.

    so its only cancel culture you dislike? the right, apparently we're just grouping everyone together now, just straight abuses people for being different...but that fine

    Afraid he missed the point entirely.
    All about labelling @Kirwan . It's what causes half the shifights around here.

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    Lots of these sorts of posts around at the moment

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    Makes me wonder if they are ballsy enough to include Luke Skywalker at some point.

    They could use the Winter Soldier guy.

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    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Lots of these sorts of posts around at the moment

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

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    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

    It's funny, I can't imagine anyone other than Mark Hamill as Luke but I was perfectly happy with Ewen McGregor as Obi Wan ( Alec Guinness was excellent as well of course )

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @MN5 yeah, with a holo communication he could still voice it

    for me its because obi won only become an legend in the prequels, and I think I learnt early on that Alec Guinness hated the films, only did it for the pay cheque

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    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

    It's funny, I can't imagine anyone other than Mark Hamill as Luke but I was perfectly happy with Ewen McGregor as Obi Wan ( Alex Guiness was excellent as well of course )

    That’s because Alec was an old fart. Someone playing a younger version is generally ok, but not if we’ve already seen a younger version. Han Solo is a good example (what a stooped idea for a SW film btw. Nobody wanted the Adventures of Young Han). Same if they were going to do a young Leia again.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

    It's funny, I can't imagine anyone other than Mark Hamill as Luke but I was perfectly happy with Ewen McGregor as Obi Wan ( Alex Guiness was excellent as well of course )

    That’s because Alec was an old fart. Someone playing a younger version is generally ok, but not if we’ve already seen a younger version. Han Solo is a good example (what a stooped idea for a SW film btw. Nobody wanted the Adventures of Young Han). Same if they were going to do a young Leia again.

    Well, if it was a considerably better film it might have worked !

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

    It's funny, I can't imagine anyone other than Mark Hamill as Luke but I was perfectly happy with Ewen McGregor as Obi Wan ( Alex Guiness was excellent as well of course )

    That’s because Alec was an old fart. Someone playing a younger version is generally ok, but not if we’ve already seen a younger version. Han Solo is a good example (what a stooped idea for a SW film btw. Nobody wanted the Adventures of Young Han). Same if they were going to do a young Leia again.

    Well, if it was a considerably better film it might have worked !

    Maybe, but it was a film nobody was calling for. Was even more odd that Harrison Ford was only 34 when SW was filmed and they’d just killed the character off.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

    It's funny, I can't imagine anyone other than Mark Hamill as Luke but I was perfectly happy with Ewen McGregor as Obi Wan ( Alex Guiness was excellent as well of course )

    That’s because Alec was an old fart. Someone playing a younger version is generally ok, but not if we’ve already seen a younger version. Han Solo is a good example (what a stooped idea for a SW film btw. Nobody wanted the Adventures of Young Han). Same if they were going to do a young Leia again.

    Well, if it was a considerably better film it might have worked !

    Maybe, but it was a film nobody was calling for. Was even more odd that Harrison Ford was only 34 when SW was filmed and they’d just killed the character off.

    Well there's talk of a Cassian Andor series.....who you might say ?

    The south american sounding bloke who helped Jyn steal the Death Star plans in Rogue one. Well one thing is for sure, with his complete and utter lack of any sort of ability other than shooting down a few storm troopers ( and who in SW land can't do that ? ) you can bet he'll get more beat downs than Mando does.

    but fuck me, the premise for this show sounds dull as fuck.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

    It's funny, I can't imagine anyone other than Mark Hamill as Luke but I was perfectly happy with Ewen McGregor as Obi Wan ( Alex Guiness was excellent as well of course )

    That’s because Alec was an old fart. Someone playing a younger version is generally ok, but not if we’ve already seen a younger version. Han Solo is a good example (what a stooped idea for a SW film btw. Nobody wanted the Adventures of Young Han). Same if they were going to do a young Leia again.

    Well, if it was a considerably better film it might have worked !

    Maybe, but it was a film nobody was calling for. Was even more odd that Harrison Ford was only 34 when SW was filmed and they’d just killed the character off.

    Well there's talk of a Cassian Andor series.....who you might say ?

    The south american sounding bloke who helped Jyn steal the Death Star plans in Rogue one. Well one thing is for sure, with his complete and utter lack of any sort of ability other than shooting down a few storm troopers ( and who in SW land can't do that ? ) you can bet he'll get more beat downs than Mando does.

    but fuck me, the premise for this show sounds dull as fuck.

    He was very average. Tiny fücker as well. About as imposing as a hobbit.

    I’ve always had a massive horn for Wedge. A series about the pilots would be cool. There were a heap of books on this.

    Otherwise Knights of the Old Republic could be a goldmine of cool ideas.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

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    shit I would love to see that and yeah, Stan would work

    they could even do it as a holo communication, not in real life, might explain away less than perfect CGI and be less of a sin than recasting

    It's funny, I can't imagine anyone other than Mark Hamill as Luke but I was perfectly happy with Ewen McGregor as Obi Wan ( Alex Guiness was excellent as well of course )

    That’s because Alec was an old fart. Someone playing a younger version is generally ok, but not if we’ve already seen a younger version. Han Solo is a good example (what a stooped idea for a SW film btw. Nobody wanted the Adventures of Young Han). Same if they were going to do a young Leia again.

    Well, if it was a considerably better film it might have worked !

    Maybe, but it was a film nobody was calling for. Was even more odd that Harrison Ford was only 34 when SW was filmed and they’d just killed the character off.

    you might not be enough of a nerd, I saw a lot of call for a Han movie, from right back in the 80's, he was easily the most popular character in the OT. More than that they set up the legend of the kessel run in the OT...and then delivered it in the movie
    how good the actual movie is is a different issue, I liked it, the actor was too "smooth"...not rough enough for me

    I was interested in the Cassian series, the description I saw was smore of a spy thriller, hes not a great fighter, more sneaking trying to subvert the empire, more jack ryan than han solo

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