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Americas Cup

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    That was a good race!

    Yes, a real match race.

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    @Bovidae after Barkers error I thought Spithill blew it with that zig zag gybe near the end of leg 2 I think it was.

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      TNZ got air

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        well done TNZ and Prada for getting this class agreed and sailing well. When I first saw it, I couldn't see it catching on ... but it looks great, is fast, and gives us some proper racing.

        Colour me impressed

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          TNZ got air

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          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

          TNZ got air

          Both of these races have demonstrated the small margins which could lead to a catastrophic error.

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            Graham Henry has been on the turps in the sun.
            Maybe they should do that to current coaches more often... interview them while smashed.

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              What is the siren sounding noise when they go on board?

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                What is the siren sounding noise when they go on board?

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                @Hooroo said in Americas Cup:

                What is the siren sounding noise when they go on board?

                hydraulics. Would be super annoyin gafter a while I suspect

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Hooroo said in Americas Cup:

                  What is the siren sounding noise when they go on board?

                  hydraulics. Would be super annoyin gafter a while I suspect

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                  @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                  @Hooroo said in Americas Cup:

                  What is the siren sounding noise when they go on board?

                  hydraulics. Would be super annoyin gafter a while I suspect

                  Yeah bizarre. I wonder why they are so noisy? Tractor Hydraulics are heaps quieter 🙂

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                    TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them

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                      Good to see some lead changes. Burling has been making mistakes in the pre-start but speed is king. Improvements from Ineos too.

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                        Yeah TNZ boat the best, shame about the crew in pre start. If they can nail that, they'll be nigh unstoppable - huge tech leaps aside

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them

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                          @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                          TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them

                          As I understand it, each team is allowed 3 sets of foils so they most likely have a light, mid, heavy air set to fit into the 6 to 21 knot range. I'm guessing about that and haven't found any info.

                          ETNZ may be going for a smaller / heavier air set than are ideal for the conditions to get reduced drag and better overall boat speed. The drawback would be less lift making slower speed start manoeuvres more difficult and falling off the foils more likely, as well as getting back up on them requiring more time, pointing lower, etc.

                          That is all supposition on my part but from memory the cats had different foils for different wind speeds.

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                          • SnowyS Snowy

                            @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                            TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them

                            As I understand it, each team is allowed 3 sets of foils so they most likely have a light, mid, heavy air set to fit into the 6 to 21 knot range. I'm guessing about that and haven't found any info.

                            ETNZ may be going for a smaller / heavier air set than are ideal for the conditions to get reduced drag and better overall boat speed. The drawback would be less lift making slower speed start manoeuvres more difficult and falling off the foils more likely, as well as getting back up on them requiring more time, pointing lower, etc.

                            That is all supposition on my part but from memory the cats had different foils for different wind speeds.

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                            @Snowy sounds right, and looks consistent with what we saw. TNZ is slightly faster I think (at this stage)

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                              #443

                              Is Ainslie just a bit shit?

                              When these boats are going flat out, thier top speeds look comparable, yet Ainslie seems to be making alot of errors

                              Team UK seem to have a different main-sail mechanism track too, looks a bit more clunky than the others?

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                                TNZ looks to have better speed but Barker seems to be schooling Burling

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                                  BOat speed gets TNZ ahead, then Barker bombs a tac, all but game over

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                                    Yup lost another start, but some good work putBarker under pressure, and the yanks couldn't handle it. Smashed em, bro

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                                      Jeez UK are stuffed. Managed to get themselves a penalty by entering the start box a few seconds early. So they have to give USA a 50m gap after the start, they start neck and neck - race director reminds them that they have a penalty Ainslee ' don;t worry about that, it'll be washed off soon' Basically conceeding. Then they fall off the foils on the first turn

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                                        Jeez UK are stuffed. Managed to get themselves a penalty by entering the start box a few seconds early. So they have to give USA a 50m gap after the start, they start neck and neck - race director reminds them that they have a penalty Ainslee ' don;t worry about that, it'll be washed off soon' Basically conceeding. Then they fall off the foils on the first turn

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                                        @Machpants Ainslie is struggling to get things going. When he's going, his speed matches, but everything else is shite

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