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    @dogmeat said in Grace Millane:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback Seen the make up of most jurys…..

    My best mate who used to be a cop said if guilty of a crime, he'd elect to have a jury trial every day of the week. Innocent, just a judge...

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    @Baron-Silas-Greenback not at all - I posted months ago my belief that the trial by jury is the least flawed option, but it is still flawed

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    Killer appealing, because of course he is:

    Mar 17, 2020  /  New Zealand

    Grace Millane trial: Killer appeals murder conviction and sentence

    Grace Millane trial: Killer appeals murder conviction and sentence

    The man who murdered British backpacker Grace Millane is appealing his conviction and sentence.

    Not sure if it will help him, but the issues raised might be worth getting some appellate clarity.

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    Killer still has name suppression, but also a big legal aid bill, that I am sure he will pay back

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300188164/grace-millane-taxpayers-fork-out-406k-on-killers-legal-aid-costs

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    Filthy animal has been named - plus info on other convictions. Pure scum.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300185667/grace-millane-jesse-kempson-abused-multiple-women-before-murdering-backpacker

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    @Paekakboyz said in Grace Millane:

    Filthy animal has been named - plus info on other convictions. Pure scum.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300185667/grace-millane-jesse-kempson-abused-multiple-women-before-murdering-backpacker

    Fuck that was hard reading

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    "Kempson was also found guilty of raping a young woman he met on the dating app Tinder. In circumstances eerily similar to his time with Grace, the woman was a young British tourist, and he carried out his crime in a motel room."

    "Now, it can also be reported for the first time that he also subjected a former partner to months of violence, and sexually assaulted her."

    WTF is wrong with our justice system if we can't track these creeps?

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    I seriously hope that sack of shit gets shanked in prison. He's an absolute psychopath.

    Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.

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    @Mokey said in Grace Millane:

    Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.

    the issue I have there is, he supposedly gets name supression so his other cases dont prejudice one another? Yet in this case, he has history, surely that is relevant, particularly when it comes to sentencing, or are the judges all privy to this infomarion?

    The abuse of his partner was Jan 2017
    So April 2018 was the first rape??
    Dec 2018 he kills Millane

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    @taniwharugby the judge will know the history, but the jurors won't. Once convicted, the other crimes come into lpay for sentencing I understand.

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    @Snowy said in Grace Millane:

    "Kempson was also found guilty of raping a young woman he met on the dating app Tinder. In circumstances eerily similar to his time with Grace, the woman was a young British tourist, and he carried out his crime in a motel room."

    "Now, it can also be reported for the first time that he also subjected a former partner to months of violence, and sexually assaulted her."

    WTF is wrong with our justice system if we can't track these creeps?

    The problem is the justice system can't do anything if people don't make allegations first.

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    @antipodean said in Grace Millane:

    @Snowy said in Grace Millane:

    "Kempson was also found guilty of raping a young woman he met on the dating app Tinder. In circumstances eerily similar to his time with Grace, the woman was a young British tourist, and he carried out his crime in a motel room."

    "Now, it can also be reported for the first time that he also subjected a former partner to months of violence, and sexually assaulted her."

    WTF is wrong with our justice system if we can't track these creeps?

    The problem is the justice system can't do anything if people don't make allegations first.

    For sure. There were clues as to where this was leading though.

    I wonder how many kittens and puppies he killed as a child. These are all very documented traits.

    @taniwharugby said in Grace Millane:

    The abuse of his partner was Jan 2017
    So April 2018 was the first rape??
    Dec 2018 he kills Millane

    Throw in the animal torture beforehand and he is a classic documentary.

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    Also can I just add a quiet fuck you to the judge who blamed turds mother abandoning him for his hatred of women.

    No, my dude. Turd is a full grown adult and rape and sexual assault are a conscious choice. As is strangling, chopping up, and burying.

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    @Mokey said in Grace Millane:

    I seriously hope that sack of shit gets shanked in prison. He's an absolute psychopath.

    Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.

    I really hope he doesn't get shanked. I hope he lives a long and tortured life with his new besties. No need for tinder when there's a willing bloke in every shower! I'm OK with my taxpayer funds being used for that.

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    @Mokey said in Grace Millane:

    Also can I just add a quiet fuck you to the judge who blamed turds mother abandoning him for his hatred of women.

    No, my dude. Turd is a full grown adult and rape and sexual assault are a conscious choice. As is strangling, chopping up, and burying.

    Yep, no one is to blame for their own actions nowadays. It’s always someone else’s fault or bad circumstances that lead people to being shitcunts.

    At least we can blame him solely as opposed to the whole of New Zealand for what happened I guess.

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    @voodoo said in Grace Millane:

    @Mokey said in Grace Millane:

    I seriously hope that sack of shit gets shanked in prison. He's an absolute psychopath.

    Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.

    I really hope he doesn't get shanked. I hope he lives a long and tortured life with his new besties. No need for tinder when there's a willing bloke in every shower! I'm OK with my taxpayer funds being used for that.

    Whilst that is one of the weirdest posts that I have read, I can't help but agree with it.

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    @Snowy said in Grace Millane:

    @voodoo said in Grace Millane:

    @Mokey said in Grace Millane:

    I seriously hope that sack of shit gets shanked in prison. He's an absolute psychopath.

    Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.

    I really hope he doesn't get shanked. I hope he lives a long and tortured life with his new besties. No need for tinder when there's a willing bloke in every shower! I'm OK with my taxpayer funds being used for that.

    Whilst that is one of the weirdest posts that I have read, I can't help but agree with it.

    Yeah, I'm not proud of it. I don't even know if I truly believe it. But a quick death seems like an easy out for the lifelong heartache he has caused for so many people, the things he has stolen from them forever.

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    @voodoo for a narcissist like him, being dominated and controlled for the rest of his life would be torture for him, but he'd break, at which time he'd probably take his own life.

    @Snowy the serial killer triangle - killing animals, bed wetting and arson

    Although I listened to some stuff recently where there were guys did none of that, but were absolute psychos.

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    @Mokey said in Grace Millane:

    Also can I just add a quiet fuck you to the judge who blamed turds mother abandoning him for his hatred of women.

    No, my dude. Turd is a full grown adult and rape and sexual assault are a conscious choice. As is strangling, chopping up, and burying.

    I absolutely agree with your sentiment re misogyny and I haven't read the judge's comments. Do you have a link?

    Were they just a mitigating factor in said turd's behaviour? I am in no way or form excusing it, but the judge may have been explaining how he came to be a pychopathic nutcase?

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    @taniwharugby said in Grace Millane:

    @Snowy the serial killer triangle - killing animals, bed wetting and arson
    Although I listened to some stuff recently where there were guys did none of that, but were absolute psychos.

    Stereotypical, not all encompassing.

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