Grace Millane
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@Snowy said in Grace Millane:
"Kempson was also found guilty of raping a young woman he met on the dating app Tinder. In circumstances eerily similar to his time with Grace, the woman was a young British tourist, and he carried out his crime in a motel room."
"Now, it can also be reported for the first time that he also subjected a former partner to months of violence, and sexually assaulted her."
WTF is wrong with our justice system if we can't track these creeps?
The problem is the justice system can't do anything if people don't make allegations first.
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@antipodean said in Grace Millane:
@Snowy said in Grace Millane:
"Kempson was also found guilty of raping a young woman he met on the dating app Tinder. In circumstances eerily similar to his time with Grace, the woman was a young British tourist, and he carried out his crime in a motel room."
"Now, it can also be reported for the first time that he also subjected a former partner to months of violence, and sexually assaulted her."
WTF is wrong with our justice system if we can't track these creeps?
The problem is the justice system can't do anything if people don't make allegations first.
For sure. There were clues as to where this was leading though.
I wonder how many kittens and puppies he killed as a child. These are all very documented traits.
@taniwharugby said in Grace Millane:
The abuse of his partner was Jan 2017
So April 2018 was the first rape??
Dec 2018 he kills MillaneThrow in the animal torture beforehand and he is a classic documentary.
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@Mokey said in Grace Millane:
I seriously hope that sack of shit gets shanked in prison. He's an absolute psychopath.
Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.
I really hope he doesn't get shanked. I hope he lives a long and tortured life with his new besties. No need for tinder when there's a willing bloke in every shower! I'm OK with my taxpayer funds being used for that.
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@Mokey said in Grace Millane:
Also can I just add a quiet fuck you to the judge who blamed turds mother abandoning him for his hatred of women.
No, my dude. Turd is a full grown adult and rape and sexual assault are a conscious choice. As is strangling, chopping up, and burying.
Yep, no one is to blame for their own actions nowadays. It’s always someone else’s fault or bad circumstances that lead people to being shitcunts.
At least we can blame him solely as opposed to the whole of New Zealand for what happened I guess.
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@voodoo said in Grace Millane:
@Mokey said in Grace Millane:
I seriously hope that sack of shit gets shanked in prison. He's an absolute psychopath.
Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.
I really hope he doesn't get shanked. I hope he lives a long and tortured life with his new besties. No need for tinder when there's a willing bloke in every shower! I'm OK with my taxpayer funds being used for that.
Whilst that is one of the weirdest posts that I have read, I can't help but agree with it.
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@Snowy said in Grace Millane:
@voodoo said in Grace Millane:
@Mokey said in Grace Millane:
I seriously hope that sack of shit gets shanked in prison. He's an absolute psychopath.
Yes, all of us who wondered about other charges being the reason for the name suppression were correct, unfortunately.
I really hope he doesn't get shanked. I hope he lives a long and tortured life with his new besties. No need for tinder when there's a willing bloke in every shower! I'm OK with my taxpayer funds being used for that.
Whilst that is one of the weirdest posts that I have read, I can't help but agree with it.
Yeah, I'm not proud of it. I don't even know if I truly believe it. But a quick death seems like an easy out for the lifelong heartache he has caused for so many people, the things he has stolen from them forever.
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@voodoo for a narcissist like him, being dominated and controlled for the rest of his life would be torture for him, but he'd break, at which time he'd probably take his own life.
@Snowy the serial killer triangle - killing animals, bed wetting and arson
Although I listened to some stuff recently where there were guys did none of that, but were absolute psychos.
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@Mokey said in Grace Millane:
Also can I just add a quiet fuck you to the judge who blamed turds mother abandoning him for his hatred of women.
No, my dude. Turd is a full grown adult and rape and sexual assault are a conscious choice. As is strangling, chopping up, and burying.
I absolutely agree with your sentiment re misogyny and I haven't read the judge's comments. Do you have a link?
Were they just a mitigating factor in said turd's behaviour? I am in no way or form excusing it, but the judge may have been explaining how he came to be a pychopathic nutcase?
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@taniwharugby said in Grace Millane:
@Snowy the serial killer triangle - killing animals, bed wetting and arson
Although I listened to some stuff recently where there were guys did none of that, but were absolute psychos.Stereotypical, not all encompassing.
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@nzzp said in Grace Millane:
@taniwharugby the judge will know the history, but the jurors won't. Once convicted, the other crimes come into lpay for sentencing I understand.
That makes no sense to me, this fuckstick has an established pattern of behaviour, this should be known by the jurors
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@JC said in Grace Millane:
The Times is reporting that his sentences are to be served consecutively:
The offences, all of which were carried out while Kempson was living in Auckland, carry an 11-year jail term, which will be served after his sentence for Ms Millane’s murder.
News in NZ said they would be served concurrently
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@canefan have to think others will come forward with alleged incidents too? Assuming there will be, these can be added too?
Surely his sentences need to be consecutive, clearly this guy is a danger to society, and even if he serves 17 years, he will only be about 40 when he gets parole.
On Friday, he was sentenced by Justice Simon Moore to life imprisonment with a minimum non-parole period of 17 years.
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@taniwharugby I would have hoped so. The guy is a danger to every woman in NZ
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I keep seeing new articles of women who went on dates with him and got freaked out by his turn on a dime temper and hardcore entitlement.
He is now appealing to the supreme court about his convictions. Kind of hope they hear it fast, reject everything, and we never hear his fucking name again.
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@Mokey said in Grace Millane:
I keep seeing new articles of women who went on dates with him and got freaked out by his turn on a dime temper and hardcore entitlement.
He is now appealing to the supreme court about his convictions. Kind of hope they hear it fast, reject everything, and we never hear his fucking name again.
Funny, first people wanted to know his name, now we want to forget it!!!
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The Sentencing Act distinguishes between determinate sentences i.e. a set duration such as 10 years, and indeterminate sentences i.e. life imprisonment and preventive detention both of which can see an offender stay in prison for the rest of their life.
Indeterminate sentences are already for life, and anyone released on parole will be monitored until they die in almost all cases (the parole board can order otherwise, but that's rare), and will be subject to being recalled for the rest of their life as well. Because of this, adding determinate sentences to indeterminate sentences does nothing (what can you add to a sentence that is already for the rest of their life), so the Sentencing Act doesn't allow it. One of the complicating factors is that the murder was his last offence but it was prosecuted first since it was the most serious and other crimes were reported later, so the sexual assaults weren't part of his criminal record/history when the judge was sentencing for murder.
What the extra offending does show, however, is that this poor excuse for a human has a pattern of serious violent and sexual offending, so any parole board looking at him in the future will be considering his risk to the public in terms of all of his criminal history. That's a long time away, so maybe he will reform, but I doubt it, and it's a lot more likely that he will see 25-30 years before parole. As an example to show that parole boards do tend toward caution despite perhaps a reputation to the contrary, the longest-serving prisoner in NZ is currently Alf Vincent who has been inside over 50 years for sex offences - he has just been ordered released by the High Court as he has serious dementia and isn't more of a danger to anyone than anyone else with dementia, but the parole board weren't going to release him.
