Black Caps v Pakistan
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@delicatessen said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Sumo just called Nicholls reaching 150 an outstanding innings.
I think that is pushing it.
On one leg, scoring a 150 runs, is not outstanding?? Hard man to please!
I'm immensely proud of this team and the fight they give to win (Nichols and Wagner especially)
Tough crowd all right!!
After all the airy fairy batsmen we've had over the years that couldn't get their average above the 30s (or even 20s) we now have a bloke averaging mid-40s with 7 tons and people want him dropped because he's had a few let offs this year. Black Caps fans expectations are at an all time high. It's like being pissy at the ABs for "not winning the right way".
Averaging less than 20 over the last two seasons if simple catches are taken.
I think Nicholls is a quality batsman and we're lucky to have him. I also think Conway has a higher ceiling and isn't getting any younger.
I know we're prone to hyperbole and kneejerk reactions as members of the interwebz, but surely it's not too harsh to judge a man on his own performance, not the oppositions', over a good 15 months?
If.
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I'd love to know watling's average when he comes in with less than 150 vs more than 300. He's the polar opposite of a flat track bully. Only scores runs in the toughest conditions. Combined that with being a super reliable keeper and he's low key one of the most important players in the team.
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@delicatessen said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Sumo just called Nicholls reaching 150 an outstanding innings.
I think that is pushing it.
On one leg, scoring a 150 runs, is not outstanding?? Hard man to please!
I'm immensely proud of this team and the fight they give to win (Nichols and Wagner especially)
Tough crowd all right!!
After all the airy fairy batsmen we've had over the years that couldn't get their average above the 30s (or even 20s) we now have a bloke averaging mid-40s with 7 tons and people want him dropped because he's had a few let offs this year. Black Caps fans expectations are at an all time high. It's like being pissy at the ABs for "not winning the right way".
Averaging less than 20 over the last two seasons if simple catches are taken.
I think Nicholls is a quality batsman and we're lucky to have him. I also think Conway has a higher ceiling and isn't getting any younger.
I know we're prone to hyperbole and kneejerk reactions as members of the interwebz, but surely it's not too harsh to judge a man on his own performance, not the oppositions', over a good 15 months?
I think reviewing players records and changing their average based on every chance they give being taken is pretty tough and a lot of players records, Kane included, would be far inferior.
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@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@delicatessen said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Sumo just called Nicholls reaching 150 an outstanding innings.
I think that is pushing it.
On one leg, scoring a 150 runs, is not outstanding?? Hard man to please!
I'm immensely proud of this team and the fight they give to win (Nichols and Wagner especially)
Tough crowd all right!!
After all the airy fairy batsmen we've had over the years that couldn't get their average above the 30s (or even 20s) we now have a bloke averaging mid-40s with 7 tons and people want him dropped because he's had a few let offs this year. Black Caps fans expectations are at an all time high. It's like being pissy at the ABs for "not winning the right way".
Averaging less than 20 over the last two seasons if simple catches are taken.
I think Nicholls is a quality batsman and we're lucky to have him. I also think Conway has a higher ceiling and isn't getting any younger.
I know we're prone to hyperbole and kneejerk reactions as members of the interwebz, but surely it's not too harsh to judge a man on his own performance, not the oppositions', over a good 15 months?
If.
Good spartaning
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@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I'd love to know watling's average when he comes in with less than 150 vs more than 300. He's the polar opposite of a flat track bully. Only scores runs in the toughest conditions. Combined that with being a super reliable keeper and he's low key one of the most important players in the team.
He's definitely not one for situations where quick runs are the order of the day. I don't think statsguru is set up for that type of query, so would require doing it manually.
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I'm only about 10 mins away and it isn't raining at all
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@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I'd love to know watling's average when he comes in with less than 150 vs more than 300. He's the polar opposite of a flat track bully. Only scores runs in the toughest conditions. Combined that with being a super reliable keeper and he's low key one of the most important players in the team.
Watling proving your point haha
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@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Craig McMillan is so out of sorts with his commentary today. So many incorrect words used and getting batsmen wrong. Just weird for him as he is usually quite good.
the accidental c bomb might have something to do with it.
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Craig McMillan is so out of sorts with his commentary today. So many incorrect words used and getting batsmen wrong. Just weird for him as he is usually quite good.
the accidental c bomb might have something to do with it.
WHAT??? When?? You're kidding?
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@Hooroo I have been getting Williamson and Mitchell confused today too.
I quite like the commentary team. I like the analysis they're doing. Good to hear from an NZ perspective because I reckon it's been missing in the past. I would have liked it when I was young and taking my cricket seriously.
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Hooroo it was a mispronunciation the other day where he was trying to counter-attack or something.
Man that is unfortunate.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I quite like the commentary team. I like the analysis they're doing. Good to hear from an NZ perspective because I reckon it's been missing in the past. I would have liked it when I was young and taking my cricket seriously.
Same here. I like Craig too as a comms guy. Just feel he is having a out of sorts day today.
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Not sure if anyone watched the lunch break, but they had a question and answer thingy with Fleming and McMillan. Someone asked Fleming what is the one thing he would have liked to have known prior to playing test cricket. His answer was he wished he had learnt how to convert 50s into 100s.
Both he and McMillan pointed out that they were able to progress through the ranks without being taught to score 100s. 70s and 80s were enough. It's good to see there is an awareness of this in NZ cricket now. I grew up playing with and against these guys and it always bothered me that they were never held to account when when they got out at bad times. I witnessed a number of those middling scores from both of them, and others, and nobody got up them for it. Compare that to rugby where the young hotshots were brought back down to earth if they did something stupid on the field.
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Mitchell’s technique looks pretty sound.
