Black Caps v Pakistan
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@canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Also, those quicks. Goddamn. They mowed through India, and their lineup is something special. Amazing group of bowlers
Yeah - they are. They've got three guys the size of Big Kyle and they all bowl 5-10 clicks faster than him. And then they've got Lyon vs Santner.
Even with us playing at home, I wouldn't put any money on us beating Australia.
If we put up Santner vs Lyon we lose that matchup
I don't think we'd get a bowler in a joint team if they picked just four.
Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Lyon.
Warner, Latham, Kane, Marnus, Smith, Taylor and BJ probably edges Paine.
Jamieson probably makes it if they pick an allrounder to bat at 7 based on his phenomenal start in test cricket - but, he'd probably be taking Rossco's spot - according to me, anyway.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Also, those quicks. Goddamn. They mowed through India, and their lineup is something special. Amazing group of bowlers
Yeah - they are. They've got three guys the size of Big Kyle and they all bowl 5-10 clicks faster than him. And then they've got Lyon vs Santner.
Even with us playing at home, I wouldn't put any money on us beating Australia.
If we put up Santner vs Lyon we lose that matchup
I don't think we'd get a bowler in a joint team if they picked just four.
Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Lyon.
Warner, Latham, Kane, Marnus, Smith, Taylor and BJ probably edges Paine.
Jamieson probably makes it if they pick an allrounder to bat at 7 based on his phenomenal start in test cricket - but, he'd probably be taking Rossco's spot - according to me, anyway.
Oops I misread. I thought we were talking about a head to head series
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
A useful article summarising what needs to happen for NZ to play in the World Test Championship final at Lords.
If my maths is right:
AUSTRALIA
Current points percentage: 76.7 (322 out of 420)What’s left (max
180150 points):-India
21 home tests(30pts per win, 10pts per draw)-South Africa 3 away tests (40pts per win, 13pts per draw)
Also: 2-test series in Bangladesh cancelled (120pts not contested)
What they need to top 70 per cent:
10090 more points (win 3 out of54 against India and South Africa; or drawbothlast against India and win 2 against South Africa)INDIA
Current points percentage: 72 (390 out of 540)What’s left (max
180150 points):-Australia
21 away tests(30pts per win, 10pts per draw)-England 4 home tests (30pts per win, 10pts per draw)
What they need to top 70 per cent:
120110 more points (win 4 out of65 against Australia and England; or win 3 and draw32)ENGLAND
Current points percentage: 60.8 (292 out of 480)
What’s left (max 240 points):
-Sri Lanka 2 away tests (60pts per win, 20pts per draw)
-India 4 away tests (30pts per win, 10pts per draw)
What they need to top 70 per cent:
220 more points (win both against Sri Lanka; and win 3 and draw 1 against India)
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Really good read about Timmy, a well researched and accurate article.
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@LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@booboo yeah that's looks correct, probably unlikely we will be in the final based on that and England probably needs a near miracle as well but at least their destiny is in their hands.
Yeah. I'm thinking India win 3, draw 2
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@booboo Australian commentators were saying the Sydney test was going to be the first draw in Oz for ages.
Barring rain, I'd expect an outright result in Brisbane and with all the Indian injuries, I'm thinking Australia is the favourite - though I might change my mind if Oz has to find two new opening batsmen.
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@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@booboo yeah that's looks correct, probably unlikely we will be in the final based on that and England probably needs a near miracle as well but at least their destiny is in their hands.
Yeah. I'm thinking India win 3, draw 2
I think we have to switch focus to hoping Australia miss the final, rather than India. That's looking more likely now to me. But both still favourites to meet again in the final.
Assume Brisbane is Aussie win, most likely.
Aus v India ends 1-2
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Australia needs a series win v SA by any margin (3 test series away)
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India needs a 4-0 win v Eng (4 test series home)
I don't really rate the current Englsh team with Rot under-performing. So think 4-0 is likely. But, England are playing a 2 test series v Sri Lanka before this, so that is good prep.
South Africa are bad at the moment by their standards, and weirdly even when good usually lost to Australia at home but won away ....
Dammit, all 3 possibilities are still on the table!
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Here is the updated table.
Grrrrrr........fuck that series in Oz annoys me !!!!!!!!!
So correct me if I'm wrong but if England didn't drop a test to the Windies ( as they shouldn't have to be honest ) would they be ahead of the BCs ?
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No, if England had beaten West Indies they would have 332 points from 480 so a percentage of 69.16%.
I believe that the Australia/SA series hasn't yet been completely confirmed yet so may be still cancelled. If India beat Australia in Brisbane, Australia drop below 70% so I think that is our best chance at the moment.
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@LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
No, if England had beaten West Indies they would have 332 points from 480 so a percentage of 69.16%.
I believe that the Australia/SA series hasn't yet been completely confirmed yet so may be still cancelled. If India beat Australia in Brisbane, Australia drop below 70% so I think that is our best chance at the moment.
I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed and that table makes absolutely no sense to me
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
No, if England had beaten West Indies they would have 332 points from 480 so a percentage of 69.16%.
I believe that the Australia/SA series hasn't yet been completely confirmed yet so may be still cancelled. If India beat Australia in Brisbane, Australia drop below 70% so I think that is our best chance at the moment.
I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed and that table makes absolutely no sense to me
The table on wikipedia might be easier.
The 'PC' column is the total points contested for each team - in NZ's case 600 - so NZ are on 420 points out of 600 possible points - which is why they are sitting at 70%.
The reason for this is points are given differently depending on the length of the series.
See below.
