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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    Jamieson up to 5 in the all rounder rankings; 21 in bowlers and 60ish in batsmen. Amusingly, he has a higher batting rating than Shubman Gill.

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    https://theniche-cache.com/gentlemanly/2021/1/4/aotearoa-vs-pakistan-timmy?fbclid=IwAR3gHaE5H9IvlxM75XIQpesdnAh63mAgHqryfdcH9MA2f2Go6BgX999JQcE

    Really good read about Timmy, a well researched and accurate article.

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    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @booboo yeah that's looks correct, probably unlikely we will be in the final based on that and England probably needs a near miracle as well but at least their destiny is in their hands.

    Yeah. I'm thinking India win 3, draw 2 😞

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    @booboo Australian commentators were saying the Sydney test was going to be the first draw in Oz for ages.

    Barring rain, I'd expect an outright result in Brisbane and with all the Indian injuries, I'm thinking Australia is the favourite - though I might change my mind if Oz has to find two new opening batsmen.

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    @booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @booboo yeah that's looks correct, probably unlikely we will be in the final based on that and England probably needs a near miracle as well but at least their destiny is in their hands.

    Yeah. I'm thinking India win 3, draw 2 😞

    I think we have to switch focus to hoping Australia miss the final, rather than India. That's looking more likely now to me. But both still favourites to meet again in the final.

    Assume Brisbane is Aussie win, most likely.

    Aus v India ends 1-2

    • Australia needs a series win v SA by any margin (3 test series away)

    • India needs a 4-0 win v Eng (4 test series home)

    I don't really rate the current Englsh team with Rot under-performing. So think 4-0 is likely. But, England are playing a 2 test series v Sri Lanka before this, so that is good prep.

    South Africa are bad at the moment by their standards, and weirdly even when good usually lost to Australia at home but won away ....

    Dammit, all 3 possibilities are still on the table!

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    Here is the updated table.

    Screen Shot 2021-01-13 at 12.29.55.png

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    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Here is the updated table.

    Screen Shot 2021-01-13 at 12.29.55.png

    Grrrrrr........fuck that series in Oz annoys me !!!!!!!!!

    So correct me if I'm wrong but if England didn't drop a test to the Windies ( as they shouldn't have to be honest ) would they be ahead of the BCs ?

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    No, if England had beaten West Indies they would have 332 points from 480 so a percentage of 69.16%.

    I believe that the Australia/SA series hasn't yet been completely confirmed yet so may be still cancelled. If India beat Australia in Brisbane, Australia drop below 70% so I think that is our best chance at the moment.

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    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    No, if England had beaten West Indies they would have 332 points from 480 so a percentage of 69.16%.

    I believe that the Australia/SA series hasn't yet been completely confirmed yet so may be still cancelled. If India beat Australia in Brisbane, Australia drop below 70% so I think that is our best chance at the moment.

    I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed and that table makes absolutely no sense to me

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    No, if England had beaten West Indies they would have 332 points from 480 so a percentage of 69.16%.

    I believe that the Australia/SA series hasn't yet been completely confirmed yet so may be still cancelled. If India beat Australia in Brisbane, Australia drop below 70% so I think that is our best chance at the moment.

    I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed and that table makes absolutely no sense to me

    The table on wikipedia might be easier.

    The 'PC' column is the total points contested for each team - in NZ's case 600 - so NZ are on 420 points out of 600 possible points - which is why they are sitting at 70%.

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    The reason for this is points are given differently depending on the length of the series.

    See below.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    No, if England had beaten West Indies they would have 332 points from 480 so a percentage of 69.16%.

    I believe that the Australia/SA series hasn't yet been completely confirmed yet so may be still cancelled. If India beat Australia in Brisbane, Australia drop below 70% so I think that is our best chance at the moment.

    I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed and that table makes absolutely no sense to me

    The table on wikipedia might be easier.

    The 'PC' column is the total points contested for each team - in NZ's case 600 - so NZ are on 420 points out of 600 possible points - which is why they are sitting at 70%.

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    The reason for this is points are given differently depending on the length of the series.

    See below.

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    Ah yep, that looks better.

    Is the .5 cos they played at a neutral venue ?

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    @MN5 I think maybe that is referring to a test series that was only half-complete?

    So a 2 test series where it got cancelled after 1 test or something?

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    @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 I think maybe that is referring to a test series that was only half-complete?

    So a 2 test series where it got cancelled after 1 test or something?

    You could be right but I thought teams got more for winning away from home or did I imagine that ?

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 I think maybe that is referring to a test series that was only half-complete?

    So a 2 test series where it got cancelled after 1 test or something?

    You could be right but I thought teams got more for winning away from home or did I imagine that ?

    I can't find any reference to that. The second table above is how points are achieved.

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    The .5 series are due to half finished series getting cancelled due to covid.

    There are no extra points for winning away.

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    Not sure how right this guy is ...

    And am assuming his % probabilities are assuming each of the 2,700 odd outcomes have equal chance of occurring, when of course one team is likely to be more favoured over another in any given game, mesding wuth his actual probabilities ...

    Or he MAY be full of shit ...

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