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  • MN5M MN5

    @NTA said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Bad prep, everyone knows that.

    "Mental Disintegration"

    Steve Waugh is that you ?

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    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @NTA said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Bad prep, everyone knows that.

    "Mental Disintegration"

    Steve Waugh is that you ?

    I wish.

    YOU wish - "Hey remember that time I was having a beer with Steve Waugh in downtown Welly?"

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      And the response to the 'Steve Smith cheating again' story has been pretty strong. I liked this article by Geoff Lemon, not historically a great defender of the Aussie team:

      By the last day of any Test, the marks have been dug into trenches. Anyone walking to the crease can clearly see them. Players still take guard again, because that’s part of feeling settled and ready to face the bowling. But the marks themselves are clear.
      
      Then there is the matter of what a fifth-day pitch is made of. Unwatered throughout, baking in the sun, the batting ends have been so well trodden that not a blade of grass remains. The turf has turned to bare hard clay. The marks from earlier days are set.
      
      At this point, it is literally impossible for a player to remove the principal batting marks with four scrapes of a boot. It would require calling the ground staff for some excavation tools. Perhaps you could remove a mark on a soft English pitch on day one. Not an Australian pitch on day five.
      
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      • barbarianB barbarian

        And the response to the 'Steve Smith cheating again' story has been pretty strong. I liked this article by Geoff Lemon, not historically a great defender of the Aussie team:

        By the last day of any Test, the marks have been dug into trenches. Anyone walking to the crease can clearly see them. Players still take guard again, because that’s part of feeling settled and ready to face the bowling. But the marks themselves are clear.
        
        Then there is the matter of what a fifth-day pitch is made of. Unwatered throughout, baking in the sun, the batting ends have been so well trodden that not a blade of grass remains. The turf has turned to bare hard clay. The marks from earlier days are set.
        
        At this point, it is literally impossible for a player to remove the principal batting marks with four scrapes of a boot. It would require calling the ground staff for some excavation tools. Perhaps you could remove a mark on a soft English pitch on day one. Not an Australian pitch on day five.
        
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        @barbarian said in Australia v India:

        And the response to the 'Steve Smith cheating again' story has been pretty strong. I liked this article by Geoff Lemon, not historically a great defender of the Aussie team:

        Well you would say that, you filthy convict. #underarm #neverforget

        (Just getting in before everyone else :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: )

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          @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

          Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

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          • NTAN NTA

            @barbarian said in Australia v India:

            And the response to the 'Steve Smith cheating again' story has been pretty strong. I liked this article by Geoff Lemon, not historically a great defender of the Aussie team:

            Well you would say that, you filthy convict. #underarm #neverforget

            (Just getting in before everyone else :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: )

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            @NTA said in Australia v India:

            #underarm #neverforget

            Be more of this I think:
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            • SnowyS Snowy

              @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

              Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

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              #889

              @Snowy said in Australia v India:

              @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

              Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

              According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

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              • barbarianB barbarian

                @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

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                #890

                @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                it's not uncommon.

                No, it's a bloody outrage!

                😉

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                • barbarianB barbarian

                  @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                  @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                  Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                  According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

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                  #891

                  @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                  @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                  @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                  Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                  According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                  Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                    it's not uncommon.

                    No, it's a bloody outrage!

                    😉

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                    @NTA said in Australia v India:

                    @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                    it's not uncommon.

                    No, it's a bloody outrage!

                    😉

                    I'm not Indian - outrage levels are very low.

                    That underarm shit though, I'm still pissed about that. Comments about filthy convicts by filthy convicts are valid.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                      @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                      @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                      Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                      According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                      Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

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                      #893

                      @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                      @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                      @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                      @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                      Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                      According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                      Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                      I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

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                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                          @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                          @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                          @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                          @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                          Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                          According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                          Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                          I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

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                          #895

                          @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                          @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                          @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                          @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                          Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                          According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                          Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                          I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                          Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                          It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

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                          • barbarianB barbarian

                            @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                            @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                            @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                            @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                            Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                            According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                            Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                            I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                            Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                            It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

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                            Hooroo
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                            @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                            @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                            @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                            @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                            @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                            Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                            According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                            Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                            I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                            Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                            It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                            to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                            Did the batters have to remark their guard??

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                              #897

                              Smith and Hesson (edit: and Drumm) were talking about how weird it was on their pod yesterday, they didn't seem to think it was at all common nor within the bounds of good sportsmanship.

                              From about 7:45

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                Smith and Hesson (edit: and Drumm) were talking about how weird it was on their pod yesterday, they didn't seem to think it was at all common nor within the bounds of good sportsmanship.

                                From about 7:45

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                                @gt12 said in Australia v India:

                                Smith and Hesson (edit: and Drumm) were talking about how weird it was on their pod yesterday, they didn't seem to think it was at all common nor within the bounds of good sportsmanship.

                                From about 7:45

                                Must be part of the lynch mob....

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                                • HoorooH Hooroo

                                  @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                  @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                                  @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                  @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                                  @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                                  Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                                  According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                                  Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                                  I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                                  Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                                  It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                                  to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                                  Did the batters have to remark their guard??

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                                  @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                  @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                  @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                                  @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                  @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                                  @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                                  Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                                  According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                                  Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                                  I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                                  Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                                  It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                                  to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                                  Did the batters have to remark their guard??

                                  He did, you can see it in the video footage within that clip above.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                    @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                    @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                                    @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                                    @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                                    Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                                    According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                                    Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                                    I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                                    Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                                    It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                                    to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                                    Did the batters have to remark their guard??

                                    He did, you can see it in the video footage within that clip above.

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                                    @gt12 said in Australia v India:

                                    @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                    @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                    @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                                    @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                                    @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                                    Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                                    According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                                    Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                                    I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                                    Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                                    It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                                    to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                                    Did the batters have to remark their guard??

                                    He did, you can see it in the video footage within that clip above.

                                    Hmmm to me that just looks like he is setting his guard after the break which all bats do.

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                                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                                      @gt12 said in Australia v India:

                                      @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                      @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                      @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                                      @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                      @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                                      @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                                      Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                                      According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                                      Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                                      I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                                      Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                                      It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                                      to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                                      Did the batters have to remark their guard??

                                      He did, you can see it in the video footage within that clip above.

                                      Hmmm to me that just looks like he is setting his guard after the break which all bats do.

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                                      @Hooroo

                                      Then I'm not sure what you mean by 're-mark their guard' (Edit, see 8:36 - 8:37).

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @Hooroo

                                        Then I'm not sure what you mean by 're-mark their guard' (Edit, see 8:36 - 8:37).

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                                        @gt12 said in Australia v India:

                                        @Hooroo

                                        Then I'm not sure what you mean by 're-mark their guard'.

                                        Good call.

                                        What I meant is that it looked as though he was merely confirming it and doing a couple of scratches compared to when you first come to the crease as an opening for example, it is quite a process. IF it was that far gone, it will take quite a bit more effort to establish it again.

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                                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                                          @gt12 said in Australia v India:

                                          @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                          @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                          @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                                          @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                          @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                                          @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                                          Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                                          According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                                          Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                                          I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                                          Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                                          It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                                          to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                                          Did the batters have to remark their guard??

                                          He did, you can see it in the video footage within that clip above.

                                          Hmmm to me that just looks like he is setting his guard after the break which all bats do.

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                                          @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                          @gt12 said in Australia v India:

                                          @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                          @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                          @Hooroo said in Australia v India:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:

                                          @barbarian said in Australia v India:

                                          @Snowy said in Australia v India:

                                          @barbarian I agree with that, but out of interest what do people think he was doing then?

                                          Weird behaviour, but he has quite a few idiosyncrasies.

                                          According to Paine (from memory), he likes visualising batting in order to try and see what tactics the bowlers should be using. Then he just marked centre out of habit maybe? Apparently it's not uncommon.

                                          Don’t need to do it on the wicket though. There’s a whole SCG to “visualise”

                                          I can understand how it makes more sense to do so on the wicket. That way you can see where the ball is going to need to land etc.

                                          Exactly. And it's well within the rules.

                                          It just seems to me there is a large cohort of people just waiting for Smith to put a foot wrong, so they can say 'aha! Once a cheat, always a cheat!'.

                                          to be fair though, it doesn't look great on picture though, does it? You can understand the uproar up until the explanation.

                                          Did the batters have to remark their guard??

                                          He did, you can see it in the video footage within that clip above.

                                          Hmmm to me that just looks like he is setting his guard after the break which all bats do.

                                          Some might not read much into it, but to me it shows a bit of desperation that was in the team during the last two days. For others who see cricket up and close a lot more than us that see most of it edited through the TV, to say it’s not common, says a lot in my view.

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