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    Hutchinson confirmed the hole had been caused by internal pressures after the boat slammed down from its leap out of the water as they tried a difficult tack-bear away at the final mark while leading Luna Rossa.

    “It’s fine when it lands flat on its heel but when you land on the side, the structure inside just guillotined the panel and out it came.”

    Alarm bells rang when one of American Magic's chase boats found a large section of the hull floating nearby, confirming Hutchinson's worst fears as he had plenty of water splashing around him aboard the crippled AC75.

    Hutchinson emphasised fixing the hull would be the easy part. An ultrasound of the hull began at 3am on Monday and took seven hours, giving them some reassurances.

    “If you have concerns or worries, it’s dealing with what’s inside the boat … the hardest part is the electronics.”

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        Hutchinson confirmed the hole had been caused by internal pressures after the boat slammed down from its leap out of the water as they tried a difficult tack-bear away at the final mark while leading Luna Rossa.

        “It’s fine when it lands flat on its heel but when you land on the side, the structure inside just guillotined the panel and out it came.”

        Alarm bells rang when one of American Magic's chase boats found a large section of the hull floating nearby, confirming Hutchinson's worst fears as he had plenty of water splashing around him aboard the crippled AC75.

        Hutchinson emphasised fixing the hull would be the easy part. An ultrasound of the hull began at 3am on Monday and took seven hours, giving them some reassurances.

        “If you have concerns or worries, it’s dealing with what’s inside the boat … the hardest part is the electronics.”

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        @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

        Hutchinson confirmed the hole had been caused by internal pressures after the boat slammed down from its leap out of the water

        Sounds like my first guess.

        The electronics is interesting - surely they have spare parts? They also have some time.

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            @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

            @Snowy maybe they landed on a shark, plenty about at present apparently.

            Failed to "jump the shark?"

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            @canefan said in Americas Cup:

            @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

            @Snowy maybe they landed on a shark, plenty about at present apparently.

            Failed to "jump the shark?"

            Someone get the Fonz!

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            • SnowyS Snowy

              @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

              Hutchinson confirmed the hole had been caused by internal pressures after the boat slammed down from its leap out of the water

              Sounds like my first guess.

              The electronics is interesting - surely they have spare parts? They also have some time.

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              @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

              @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

              Hutchinson confirmed the hole had been caused by internal pressures after the boat slammed down from its leap out of the water

              Sounds like my first guess.

              The electronics is interesting - surely they have spare parts? They also have some time.

              yeah, he confirmed they had spares for everything they need and they can still steal some stuff from Defiant like the foil arm mechanism which apparently is rooted

              also confirmed the hydraulics are a closed system so is fine, he said if that had been damaged then they would have been screwed as that would have taken a lot longer to install a new one that the electronics

              Theyre using lots of different people to help, he said ETNZ are "finished" or at least winding down with their boat building so have offered up their local boat builders to help manufacture sheets of carbon fibre, for example, that then their team can just install

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                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                @Snowy maybe they landed on a shark, plenty about at present apparently.

                Failed to "jump the shark?"

                Someone get the Fonz!

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                @Godder said in Americas Cup:

                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                @Snowy maybe they landed on a shark, plenty about at present apparently.

                Failed to "jump the shark?"

                Someone get the Fonz!

                He would have kept cooler than Deano during that turn....

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Godder said in Americas Cup:

                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                  @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                  @Snowy maybe they landed on a shark, plenty about at present apparently.

                  Failed to "jump the shark?"

                  Someone get the Fonz!

                  He would have kept cooler than Deano during that turn....

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                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                  He would have kept cooler than Deano during that turn....

                  Haha. Was Deano at the helm when it happened? There was speculation that he hadn't managed to move to the windward side. It does sound like they got an unlucky break with a puff / gust regardless.

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                    Hutchinson confirmed the hole had been caused by internal pressures after the boat slammed down from its leap out of the water

                    Sounds like my first guess.

                    The electronics is interesting - surely they have spare parts? They also have some time.

                    yeah, he confirmed they had spares for everything they need and they can still steal some stuff from Defiant like the foil arm mechanism which apparently is rooted

                    also confirmed the hydraulics are a closed system so is fine, he said if that had been damaged then they would have been screwed as that would have taken a lot longer to install a new one that the electronics

                    Theyre using lots of different people to help, he said ETNZ are "finished" or at least winding down with their boat building so have offered up their local boat builders to help manufacture sheets of carbon fibre, for example, that then their team can just install

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                    they can still steal some stuff from Defiant like the foil arm mechanism which apparently is rooted

                    You've been away to long. We use "munted" even these days.

                    Foil arms / mechanism should be available. They were part of the AC 75 standard bits.

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                      they can still steal some stuff from Defiant like the foil arm mechanism which apparently is rooted

                      You've been away to long. We use "munted" even these days.

                      Foil arms / mechanism should be available. They were part of the AC 75 standard bits.

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                      @Snowy he seemed to think they had to be taken out of Defiant so maybe its something connected that's not part of the "one design", or maybe they only made enough for each team to have two and making more will take too long

                      ...cant remember the last time I even used the term rooted...weird

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @Snowy he seemed to think they had to be taken out of Defiant so maybe its something connected that's not part of the "one design", or maybe they only made enough for each team to have two and making more will take too long

                        ...cant remember the last time I even used the term rooted...weird

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                        ..cant remember the last time I even used the term rooted...weird

                        We're all getting older.

                        The one design thing I have no idea how many were built and distributed, but they must have some floating (yes) around for them.

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                          Bovidae
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                          I'm sure part of this is to appease the TV broadcasters and sponsors.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300210331/americas-cup--ghost-races-to-be-staged-following-american-magic-withdrawal-from-prada-cup-round-robins

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                            I'm sure part of this is to appease the TV broadcasters and sponsors.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300210331/americas-cup--ghost-races-to-be-staged-following-american-magic-withdrawal-from-prada-cup-round-robins

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                            @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                            I'm sure part of this is to appease the TV broadcasters and sponsors.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300210331/americas-cup--ghost-races-to-be-staged-following-american-magic-withdrawal-from-prada-cup-round-robins

                            Ah yes, yet another absolute bullshit headline.
                            The headline's so-called "ghost race" - is that the other boat has to cross the start line. That's it.
                            It's not even to the extent of 2013, when, according to the article (and why would anybody do that) - they actually had to sail the course.

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                              all of it blown out of proportion, the reality is the teams will probably be out training anyway so even if they did have to finish the race...they'd probably want too

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                                all of it blown out of proportion, the reality is the teams will probably be out training anyway so even if they did have to finish the race...they'd probably want too

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                                @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                all of it blown out of proportion, the reality is the teams will probably be out training anyway so even if they did have to finish the race...they'd probably want too

                                Yeah - I was thinking that too... If they have to get out to do the start, I suspect they'll want to just blat it up and down the actual course a couple of times at least... it's probably worth more than getting an extra couple of hours in the shed to tinker.
                                And even if Sunday afternoon's race is a dead-rubber, I'd expect the good-will (and again, experience) from actually racing - again, more worthwhile than the extra couple of hours - when they've got a whole week to repaint shit, and polish the shiny bits, and whatever else.

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                                  Good race, 9 lead changes, Brits won and are off to the final. Italy are in the semi with USA, if they manage to make it

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                                    Probably the most exciting race so far and you would have to say that Ainslie outsailed Spithill.

                                    Will Team UK race tomorrow? We'll see.

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                                      Good race, 9 lead changes, Brits won and are off to the final. Italy are in the semi with USA, if they manage to make it

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                                      @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                                      Good race, 9 lead changes, Brits won and are off to the final. Italy are in the semi with USA, if they manage to make it

                                      After the initial struggles, INEOS have made a lazarus style recovery

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                                        that's pretty cool

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                                          that's pretty cool

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                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                          that's pretty cool

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                                          That is well-cool!

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