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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Hutchinson confirmed the hole had been caused by internal pressures after the boat slammed down from its leap out of the water

    Sounds like my first guess.

    The electronics is interesting - surely they have spare parts? They also have some time.

    yeah, he confirmed they had spares for everything they need and they can still steal some stuff from Defiant like the foil arm mechanism which apparently is rooted

    also confirmed the hydraulics are a closed system so is fine, he said if that had been damaged then they would have been screwed as that would have taken a lot longer to install a new one that the electronics

    Theyre using lots of different people to help, he said ETNZ are "finished" or at least winding down with their boat building so have offered up their local boat builders to help manufacture sheets of carbon fibre, for example, that then their team can just install

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    they can still steal some stuff from Defiant like the foil arm mechanism which apparently is rooted

    You've been away to long. We use "munted" even these days.

    Foil arms / mechanism should be available. They were part of the AC 75 standard bits.

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      @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

      they can still steal some stuff from Defiant like the foil arm mechanism which apparently is rooted

      You've been away to long. We use "munted" even these days.

      Foil arms / mechanism should be available. They were part of the AC 75 standard bits.

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      @Snowy he seemed to think they had to be taken out of Defiant so maybe its something connected that's not part of the "one design", or maybe they only made enough for each team to have two and making more will take too long

      ...cant remember the last time I even used the term rooted...weird

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Snowy he seemed to think they had to be taken out of Defiant so maybe its something connected that's not part of the "one design", or maybe they only made enough for each team to have two and making more will take too long

        ...cant remember the last time I even used the term rooted...weird

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        @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

        ..cant remember the last time I even used the term rooted...weird

        We're all getting older.

        The one design thing I have no idea how many were built and distributed, but they must have some floating (yes) around for them.

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          I'm sure part of this is to appease the TV broadcasters and sponsors.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300210331/americas-cup--ghost-races-to-be-staged-following-american-magic-withdrawal-from-prada-cup-round-robins

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            I'm sure part of this is to appease the TV broadcasters and sponsors.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300210331/americas-cup--ghost-races-to-be-staged-following-american-magic-withdrawal-from-prada-cup-round-robins

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            @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

            I'm sure part of this is to appease the TV broadcasters and sponsors.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300210331/americas-cup--ghost-races-to-be-staged-following-american-magic-withdrawal-from-prada-cup-round-robins

            Ah yes, yet another absolute bullshit headline.
            The headline's so-called "ghost race" - is that the other boat has to cross the start line. That's it.
            It's not even to the extent of 2013, when, according to the article (and why would anybody do that) - they actually had to sail the course.

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              all of it blown out of proportion, the reality is the teams will probably be out training anyway so even if they did have to finish the race...they'd probably want too

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                all of it blown out of proportion, the reality is the teams will probably be out training anyway so even if they did have to finish the race...they'd probably want too

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                @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                all of it blown out of proportion, the reality is the teams will probably be out training anyway so even if they did have to finish the race...they'd probably want too

                Yeah - I was thinking that too... If they have to get out to do the start, I suspect they'll want to just blat it up and down the actual course a couple of times at least... it's probably worth more than getting an extra couple of hours in the shed to tinker.
                And even if Sunday afternoon's race is a dead-rubber, I'd expect the good-will (and again, experience) from actually racing - again, more worthwhile than the extra couple of hours - when they've got a whole week to repaint shit, and polish the shiny bits, and whatever else.

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                  Good race, 9 lead changes, Brits won and are off to the final. Italy are in the semi with USA, if they manage to make it

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                    Probably the most exciting race so far and you would have to say that Ainslie outsailed Spithill.

                    Will Team UK race tomorrow? We'll see.

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                    • M Machpants

                      Good race, 9 lead changes, Brits won and are off to the final. Italy are in the semi with USA, if they manage to make it

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                      @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                      Good race, 9 lead changes, Brits won and are off to the final. Italy are in the semi with USA, if they manage to make it

                      After the initial struggles, INEOS have made a lazarus style recovery

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                        that's pretty cool

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          that's pretty cool

                          1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                          that's pretty cool

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                          That is well-cool!

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            that's pretty cool

                            1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                            that's pretty cool

                            1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

                            This is not what the Americas Cup is usually about!

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                              that's pretty cool

                              1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

                              This is not what the Americas Cup is usually about!

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                              @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                              that's pretty cool

                              1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

                              This is not what the Americas Cup is usually about!

                              I don't thin you'd find people like coutts and spitall doing something like that...but then I don't think they would have offered help (off the water, think all sailors would have helped at the time) like these teams did

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                that's pretty cool

                                1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

                                This is not what the Americas Cup is usually about!

                                I don't thin you'd find people like coutts and spitall doing something like that...but then I don't think they would have offered help (off the water, think all sailors would have helped at the time) like these teams did

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                                @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                that's pretty cool

                                1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

                                This is not what the Americas Cup is usually about!

                                I don't thin you'd find people like coutts and spitall doing something like that...but then I don't think they would have offered help (off the water, think all sailors would have helped at the time) like these teams did

                                Very much the "on the water" distinction. Artemis had a sailor killed in San Fran so it isn't a joke when one of these rocket ships goes tits up.

                                Getting a team back on it's feet off the water is novel and very cool.
                                Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though.

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                  that's pretty cool

                                  1c4476b6-38f4-41b4-a09d-7f4091902660-image.png

                                  This is not what the Americas Cup is usually about!

                                  I don't thin you'd find people like coutts and spitall doing something like that...but then I don't think they would have offered help (off the water, think all sailors would have helped at the time) like these teams did

                                  Very much the "on the water" distinction. Artemis had a sailor killed in San Fran so it isn't a joke when one of these rocket ships goes tits up.

                                  Getting a team back on it's feet off the water is novel and very cool.
                                  Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though.

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                                  @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                  Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though

                                  they were the best parts

                                  "get off the stage loser"

                                  followed by 8 legal challenges.

                                  rich fluffybunnies acting like rich fluffybunnies makes the Americas Cup seem more real

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                    Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though

                                    they were the best parts

                                    "get off the stage loser"

                                    followed by 8 legal challenges.

                                    rich fluffybunnies acting like rich fluffybunnies makes the Americas Cup seem more real

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                                    @mariner4life said in Americas Cup:

                                    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                    Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though

                                    they were the best parts

                                    "get off the stage loser"

                                    followed by 8 legal challenges.

                                    rich fluffybunnies acting like rich fluffybunnies makes the Americas Cup seem more real

                                    Kind of was the making of Paul Holmes too.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                      Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though

                                      they were the best parts

                                      "get off the stage loser"

                                      followed by 8 legal challenges.

                                      rich fluffybunnies acting like rich fluffybunnies makes the Americas Cup seem more real

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                                      @mariner4life Nah. Fuck that, it went on for too long. I have sailed for most of my life and I want to see deign, development, and boats on the water deciding the outcome, not lawyers.

                                      Agreed that they are fluffybunnies.

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        @mariner4life said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                        Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though

                                        they were the best parts

                                        "get off the stage loser"

                                        followed by 8 legal challenges.

                                        rich fluffybunnies acting like rich fluffybunnies makes the Americas Cup seem more real

                                        Kind of was the making of Paul Holmes too.

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                                        @Hooroo said in Americas Cup:

                                        Kind of was the making of Paul Holmes too.

                                        Another down point.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                          Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though

                                          they were the best parts

                                          "get off the stage loser"

                                          followed by 8 legal challenges.

                                          rich fluffybunnies acting like rich fluffybunnies makes the Americas Cup seem more real

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                                          @mariner4life said in Americas Cup:

                                          @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                          Maybe the days of Connor, Coutts, Butterworth, Berterelli, Ellison et al are gone. Let's hope so. The lawyers will be spewing though

                                          they were the best parts

                                          "get off the stage loser"

                                          followed by 8 legal challenges.

                                          rich fluffybunnies acting like rich fluffybunnies makes the Americas Cup seem more real

                                          I don't mind a bit of back and forth in the lead up, builds some tension, concentrate on the racing once it all starts though

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