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Good Rugby Reads

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    <p>I'll put this one here as well from another thread.</p>
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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/gordon-d-arcy-burgess-is-blunder-that-could-bury-england-1.2371821'>http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/gordon-d-arcy-burgess-is-blunder-that-could-bury-england-1.2371821</a></p>
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    <p>Gordon D'Arcy's view on the Burgess experiment</p>

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    @crucial said in Good Rugby Reads:

    <p>I'll put this one here as well from another thread.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/gordon-d-arcy-burgess-is-blunder-that-could-bury-england-1.2371821'>http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/gordon-d-arcy-burgess-is-blunder-that-could-bury-england-1.2371821</a></p>
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    <p>Gordon D'Arcy's view on the Burgess experiment</p>

    https://twitter.com/SamBurgess8/status/1067330711038783488?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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      Really enjoyed this

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/sport/dean-cup-rugby/

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      • jeggaJ jegga

        Really enjoyed this

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/sport/dean-cup-rugby/

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        @jegga thanks that's a great read.

        I would not mess with Athalinda, tough looking bird

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          Really enjoyed this

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/sport/dean-cup-rugby/

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          @jegga this is particularly true of most sports clubs these days, not least the bar take was always a huge part in keeping the places running.

          Not so much of an issue in the cities where public transport or carpooling is an option.

          You can’t ignore the fact that alcohol plays a big part in proceedings. You can’t deny the fact, also, that attitudes to, and more specifically policing of, drink-driving laws has torn away at the social tissue that connected rural rugby clubs to the wider community.

          During the centenary celebrations, Dean Cup stalwart David Walter wrote: “In earlier days the drinking ritual was manly and mandatory, smoking was almost compulsory and drink-driving was a highly recommended activity. Panelbeaters got quite a surge of winter activity following a Dean Cup challenge.”

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/123404969/jerry-collins-biceps-as-big-as-mr-olympia-arnold-schwarzeneggers

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/123404969/jerry-collins-biceps-as-big-as-mr-olympia-arnold-schwarzeneggers

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              @taniwharugby said in Good Rugby Reads:

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/123404969/jerry-collins-biceps-as-big-as-mr-olympia-arnold-schwarzeneggers

              Yeah, nah

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                Two good articles from Rugbypass:

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/richard-kahui-all-blacks-western-force/

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/when-i-was-skinny-as-a-rake-i-wasnt-very-filled-out-so-everyone-would-want-a-fight-with-you-if-you-were-in-a-nightclub-bird-all-blacks-racing/

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                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-couldnt-see-myself-ever-going-back-how-new-zealand-rugby-nearly-lost-its-next-big-star-to-the-nrl/

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                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-couldnt-see-myself-ever-going-back-how-new-zealand-rugby-nearly-lost-its-next-big-star-to-the-nrl/

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                    @Stargazer
                    Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

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                      @Stargazer
                      Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

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                      @mofitzy_ said in Good Rugby Reads:

                      @Stargazer
                      Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

                      There's only so many places in SR and ITM squads, so heaps I'd imagine

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                      • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                        @Stargazer
                        Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

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                        @mofitzy_ said in Good Rugby Reads:

                        Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

                        Here's a recent example:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123878200/nrl-top-kiwi-prospect-tuki-simpkins-joins-wests-tigers-after-player-switch

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @mofitzy_ said in Good Rugby Reads:

                          Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

                          Here's a recent example:

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123878200/nrl-top-kiwi-prospect-tuki-simpkins-joins-wests-tigers-after-player-switch

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                          @Bovidae said in Good Rugby Reads:

                          @mofitzy_ said in Good Rugby Reads:

                          Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

                          Here's a recent example:

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123878200/nrl-top-kiwi-prospect-tuki-simpkins-joins-wests-tigers-after-player-switch

                          TBF, going by that article he was a leaguie anyway.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Bovidae said in Good Rugby Reads:

                            @mofitzy_ said in Good Rugby Reads:

                            Have to wonder how many high level school-aged players are lost to NRL and forgotten by most of the rugby community.

                            Here's a recent example:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123878200/nrl-top-kiwi-prospect-tuki-simpkins-joins-wests-tigers-after-player-switch

                            TBF, going by that article he was a leaguie anyway.

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                            @Nepia said in Good Rugby Reads:

                            TBF, going by that article he was a leaguie anyway.

                            A lot of them play both codes at schoolboy level but not many traditional rugby schools have a RL team.

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                              Why Sid Going was one of the most unique players to play for the All Blacks

                              https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/08/01/why-sid-going-was-one-of-the-most-unique-players-to-play-for-the-all-blacks/

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                Why Sid Going was one of the most unique players to play for the All Blacks

                                https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/08/01/why-sid-going-was-one-of-the-most-unique-players-to-play-for-the-all-blacks/

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                                @taniwharugby I'd love to see video of that famous triple scissors again.
                                Not sure if it would work against modern defences but you never know. HIstory is often forgotten by coaches wanting to do the next new thing when the old thing could be better.

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  Why Sid Going was one of the most unique players to play for the All Blacks

                                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/08/01/why-sid-going-was-one-of-the-most-unique-players-to-play-for-the-all-blacks/

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                                  @taniwharugby

                                  Great article. But have to take issue with the author saying Sid's passing game (or lack of it) didn't matter as the AB backs were a bit crap back then. Players like Bruce Robinson, Bryan Williams, Grant Batty, Joe Karam, Ian McRae, Bill Osborne etc were pretty damn good.

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                                    @taniwharugby

                                    Great article. But have to take issue with the author saying Sid's passing game (or lack of it) didn't matter as the AB backs were a bit crap back then. Players like Bruce Robinson, Bryan Williams, Grant Batty, Joe Karam, Ian McRae, Bill Osborne etc were pretty damn good.

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                                    @victor-meldrew largely before my time, but I was wondering about that.

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300457750/most-unfortunate-match-ever-played-when-the-mori-played-the-springboks-a-century-ago-racism-flared

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                                        Surprised that Mark Treason can also write good articles, but this interview with Wayne Smith is a very good read!

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300520549/wayne-smith-on-the-all-blacks-the-barrett-brothers-and-who-will-win-the-next-world-cup

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                                          Surprised that Mark Treason can also write good articles, but this interview with Wayne Smith is a very good read!

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300520549/wayne-smith-on-the-all-blacks-the-barrett-brothers-and-who-will-win-the-next-world-cup

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                                          @stargazer said in Good Rugby Reads:

                                          Surprised that Mark Treason can also write good articles, but this interview with Wayne Smith is a very good read!

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300520549/wayne-smith-on-the-all-blacks-the-barrett-brothers-and-who-will-win-the-next-world-cup

                                          It's interesting to hear Wayne Smith is another advocate of Jordie Barrett being played at 12, Razor had much the same reasoning when he shared his views on the radio a few months ago, like Wayne, believes Jordie's physical attributes would be better utilized at second-five.

                                          "There are people who are saying that Richie Mo’unga is struggling to step up to international level. But when New Zealand came back from the Autumn tour, Scott Robertson heavily implied that the All Blacks weren't playing to the strengths of their players."

                                          Ain't that the truth...

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