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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Chiefs problem looks to be that they have so many players that play best at 15.

    DMac, Trask, ENS, arguably Stevenson...

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    @kiwimurph said in Chiefs 2021:

    Chiefs problem looks to be that they have so many players that play best at 15.

    DMac, Trask, ENS, arguably Stevenson...

    ENS has never shown that he plays best at 15. It may be his “natural “ position based on skill set and he would probably like to have a crack there but as far as the Chiefs go he is hardly beating down the door.

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      Weber and Cane are coming-captains which doesn’t look good for contenders for their positions.
      Both should be being subbed later in the game.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        Weber and Cane are coming-captains which doesn’t look good for contenders for their positions.
        Both should be being subbed later in the game.

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        @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

        Weber and Cane are coming-captains which doesn’t look good for contenders for their positions.
        Both should be being subbed later in the game.

        Probably doesn't look good for them or the opposition either.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Weber and Cane are coming-captains which doesn’t look good for contenders for their positions.
          Both should be being subbed later in the game.

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          @crucial hmmm Weber yes, Cane not so much. Cane should be playing as much as he can IMO. Weber on the other hand, it's most likely his final year in the Chiefs so it would be nice to see TTT and Roe take the reigns a bit more.

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            With a bye in week one of Super Rugby Aotearoa, the Chiefs will get an opportunity to rest and recover from a busy pre-season.
            
            On the much-talked about injury front, a few niggles were reported this week, with Damian McKenzie (foot) and Pita Gus Sowakula sitting out training.
            

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/why-sam-cane-is-staying-on-as-a-chiefs-captain-despite-arduous-all-blacks-duties/

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              Weber and Cane are coming-captains which doesn’t look good for contenders for their positions.
              Both should be being subbed later in the game.

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              @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

              Weber and Cane are coming-captains which doesn’t look good for contenders for their positions.

              Yeah, this doesn't seem like a practical choice to me.

              I can understand that Weber could be captain if Cane is rested but Weber will be subbed during a game. What happens then if neither are on the field? I'm trying to remember who the Highlanders use when both Smith and Dixon aren't on the field at the end of games.

              I finally had a chance to watch the game of 3 halves. Harris should be relegated to the 3rd choice hooker with that throwing performance.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                Weber and Cane are coming-captains which doesn’t look good for contenders for their positions.

                Yeah, this doesn't seem like a practical choice to me.

                I can understand that Weber could be captain if Cane is rested but Weber will be subbed during a game. What happens then if neither are on the field? I'm trying to remember who the Highlanders use when both Smith and Dixon aren't on the field at the end of games.

                I finally had a chance to watch the game of 3 halves. Harris should be relegated to the 3rd choice hooker with that throwing performance.

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                @bovidae Yeah Harris was pretty bad eh. Slater looked good last year, hopefully he can challenge.

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                  Any idea of this week's 23? Slater to start at hooker?

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Any idea of this week's 23? Slater to start at hooker?

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                    @tim Harris is BoP so doubt it.

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                      https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/liam-messam-during-a-chiefs-super-rugby-aotearoa-media-news-photo/1303580646

                      Messam training with the Chiefs?

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                        Stan van den Hoven must now be the official injury replacement for McWhannell.

                        https://www.chiefs.co.nz/player/stan-van-den-hoven

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Stan van den Hoven must now be the official injury replacement for McWhannell.

                          https://www.chiefs.co.nz/player/stan-van-den-hoven

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                          @bovidae Oh nice, was waiting for all the new player profiles to go up. Is he the first Dutch born player in Super that we know of?

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                            @bovidae Oh nice, was waiting for all the new player profiles to go up. Is he the first Dutch born player in Super that we know of?

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                            @yeetyaah I thinks so. Kees Meeuws and Carl Hoeft are both NZ-born.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @yeetyaah I thinks so. Kees Meeuws and Carl Hoeft are both NZ-born.

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                              @stargazer Likewise Josh Kronfeld

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                              • HigginsH Higgins

                                @stargazer Likewise Josh Kronfeld

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                                @higgins Isn't he of German descent, not Dutch? He has a German name.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @higgins Isn't he of German descent, not Dutch? He has a German name.

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                                  @stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @higgins Isn't he of German descent, not Dutch? He has a German name.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Kronfeld
                                  Kronfeld was born in Hastings in Hawkes Bay, and attended Hastings Boys' High School. Kronfeld described himself as "German-Samoan" and he is Jewish.[1] He played his early rugby union at scrum-half and centre, switching to flanker at high school.

                                  In 1990 Kronfeld moved to Dunedin to study physical education at the University of Otago. Here he became involved in the Otago University Rugby Club. After playing one game in 1992, Kronfeld gained a starting position in the Otago team in the National Provincial Championship (NPC) for 1993. Kronfeld would eventually play 69 matches for Otago. He completed his BPhEd degree in 1993.

                                  I will have to bow to your knowledge and that of Wikipedia, must be a further strengthening of oncoming alzheimers!

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                                    @stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @higgins Isn't he of German descent, not Dutch? He has a German name.

                                    Also, Is Hoeft actually of Dutch descent? As it’s a North German as well as Dutch name.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                                      @higgins Isn't he of German descent, not Dutch? He has a German name.

                                      Also, Is Hoeft actually of Dutch descent? As it’s a North German as well as Dutch name.

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                                      @nepia From the article below (from 2003):

                                      "My great, great grandfather was from Germany with a Dutch background. He left Europe and came to the Pacific where he married a Samoan and then settled in Tonga. My grandmother is a Cook Islander while my mum is a Kiwi so there is a lot of mixed bloodlines."

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/hoeft-back-in-the-engine-room/ATXVJBQS4OL3PA7L7L5G7YJJPM/

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                                        love the chat about some Otago Legends......:smirking_face:

                                        *i was also born in Hastings

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                                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                          @tim Harris is BoP so doubt it.

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                                          @yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          @tim Harris is BoP so doubt it.

                                          Cynics. 🙂

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