Americas Cup

[canefan]

We start on the less favoured side, we overtake and win by 700m and change. Nice way to hold serve

[Kruse]

One question, seeing as all of a sudden everybody's a sailing expert, hydro-mechanical guru, and wind physicist....
Is the unit “knot” metric, or imperial?

[Kiwiwomble]

nautical mile so im going with imperial

[voodoo]

I hope that's not how the remainder of the series goes. Seems a ludicrous amount of weight on winning the start.

[taniwharugby]

@kiwiwomble isn't it just nautical?

[Bovidae]

Hopefully we move to another course over the weekend to make the races a little less predictable.

It's the TVNZ/Stevenson jinx we need to worry about. :crossed_fingers:

[Kruse]

@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

nautical mile so im going with imperial

Yeah, looked it up. It's imperial, but still commonly used as a standard as it lines up fairly well with longitude/latitude degrees/minutes/seconds.
Or some bullshit.

[taniwharugby]

@kruse yea there used to be a US nautical mile.

The length of the internationally agreed nautical mile is 1852 m. The US adopted the international definition in 1954, having previously used the US nautical mile (1853.248 m).[5] The UK adopted the international nautical mile definition in 1970, having previously used the UK Admiralty nautical mile (6080 ft or 1853.184 m).

[voodoo]

@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

@kruse yea there used to be a US nautical mile.

The length of the internationally agreed nautical mile is 1852 m. The US adopted the international definition in 1954, having previously used the US nautical mile (1853.248 m).[5] The UK adopted the international nautical mile definition in 1970, having previously used the UK Admiralty nautical mile (6080 ft or 1853.184 m).

We should get one of those "things you learn" threads going..

[Kiwiwomble]

@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

@kiwiwomble isn't it just nautical?

nope

[Machpants]

@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

nautical mile so im going with imperial

Yeah nah, a nautical mile is based on the circumfrance of the earth. It is a minute of lattitude, standardised at 1852m

[Kiwiwomble]

@machpants so how is it "nah"?

full disclosure, i have a Bachelor in Surveying

[Machpants]

@kiwiwomble It's both, recognised in both Imperial and Metric systems

Full disclosure Royal Navy Ship and Aircraft Navigator, RAF Navigator - was educated about, trained and worked in Knots for a significant part of my life.

EDIT: It is not an SI unit tho

[Kiwiwomble]

@machpants so recognised as both but i get a "nah"? not just "its both"?

the metric system is based on the metre...hows is something thats 1852m considered metric? im genuinely curious

[nzzp]

Damn, that was an important win in the second race.

3-1 down is a long way back in first to 7.

splitting light air races gives yo uthe chance to win. They looked like two different boats out there between races 1 and 2 ... dirty air seems to be a massive impediment, much like F1. Fast boat, no passing, start critical - this IS F1 on the water

[Kiwiwomble]

@nzzp yeah, definitely more and more evidence that the start is critical, then the commentators have started making comments like “yet again we’re looking at the start” when they go over the important moments of the race

Might not be as simple as “win the start = win the race”...but it’s not far off, you may not have to out right win but I think you can’t risk out right loosing

[canefan]

@kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

@nzzp yeah, definitely more and more evidence that the start is critical, then the commentators have started making comments like “yet again we’re looking at the start” when they go over the important moments of the race

Might not be as simple as “win the start = win the race”...but it’s not far off, you may not have to out right win but I think you can’t risk out right loosing

Didn't we slip up at the start of race 4? But we had enough speed to recover

[voodoo]

@nzzp said in Americas Cup:

Damn, that was an important win in the second race.

3-1 down is a long way back in first to 7.

splitting light air races gives yo uthe chance to win. They looked like two different boats out there between races 1 and 2 ... dirty air seems to be a massive impediment, much like F1. Fast boat, no passing, start critical - this IS F1 on the water

Except that in F1 its quite easy to drag behind someone amd lose by a few seconds. This feels like once you're in front, you don't just maintain, but you extent that lead, to the point that you have zero change of overtaking

[Kiwiwomble]

@canefan I’m not convinced it was not deliberate, they popped back up on the foils as soon as spithill went for the overlap

[taniwharugby]

@Kiwiwomble @Machpants

Full disclosure: internet expert here, you are both wrong, and if you says knots 100 times as fast as you can, you will know.