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  • SnowyS Offline
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    replied to canefan on last edited by
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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    Let's face it, it's yacht racing, not MMA, and you can't just make more wind.

    Yeah but you can create race courses that enable a contest. F1 have done it. Monaco dull, all of the new tracks are pretty good.

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    I should add that the course design, race length, etc. was done for spectator appeal and they ended up with a rather unappealing product. I feel sorry for the comms at times. Very difficult to make this exciting, and I enjoy sailing, but they have to talk shit knowing full well when a race is done and dusted.

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    @snowy haha yep "TNZ/LR can only hope for an error at this point" (leg 3 of 6)

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    Does anybody know why they went away from the triangular courses that used to be used? At the moment they just go upwind and downwind for 6 legs. If there was a triangular course that would provide some variation.

    Back when I used to sail, the standard was once around a triangle and then a final long leg to finish.

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    @damo said in Americas Cup:

    Does anybody know why they went away from the triangular courses that used to be used? At the moment they just go upwind and downwind for 6 legs. If there was a triangular course that would provide some variation.

    Back when I used to sail, the standard was once around a triangle and then a final long leg to finish.

    It's the boats mostly (and TB coverage and spectator appeal).
    I've mentioned it before but I think an Olympic triangle doesn't really suit these boats - nor the cats. They are always upwind, because of apparent wind. Look how tight trimmed / close hauled they are "downwind". There ain't any goose wing sets anymore.

    A reach leg wouldn't involve any sailing skill, just the drag out to the mark.

    All a bit of a mind fuck for old school sailors. I call it physics, some call it witchcraft, but not much point in a triangle as I see it.

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    so on the TVNZ Sports piece, they have Burling as the 'Flight Controller' but Spittal as 'co-helmsman'

    The correct titles for TNZ are:
    Burling - helmsman
    Ashby - trimmer
    Tuke - flight controller

    Do we have co-helmsman too, or do LR have a Flight Controller?

    Bruni and Spithill are co-helmsmen (they don't change sides), Sibello is the mainsail trimmer. It looks like they also use some grinders as trimmers.

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    Burling is also Skipper as is Spithill.

    Not just helmsmen, the buck stops with them (on the water anyway).

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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

    LUNA ROSSA TEAM
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    @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

    LUNA ROSSA TEAM

    Thanks. I know who he is but he sure doesn't say much on board.

    Pretty sure they had Spithill listed as skipper on the TB. Is Sirena always on the boat?

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    Key question, who's responsible for making the G+Ts?

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    Fuck there's some morons out there

    Duncan why does the wind need to be strong enough? Can’t they race off foils?
    TimZ

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    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Racing at 5 knots lol

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

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    replied to Damo on last edited by
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    @damo said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

    Except the race wouldn't finish, they'd run out of time

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    @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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    replied to Damo on last edited by
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    @damo said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

    A displacement race would make me laugh, except we lost in SF due to a time limit so don't want to go there. About as fair as a CWC decided on boundaries. I'm not bitter at all, well maybe a little...fucking arseholes that make stupid rules...they don't understand the sport... they are all idiots...mutter, mutter.

    Going back to the GOM thread.

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @machpants That was more exciting than the current "races".

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    @canefan I think all the monohull ACs were more like that, so pre 2013 (ignoring the deed of gift), I’m sure 95-2007 were more like that

    I was thinking more recently, either SF or Bermuda

    I thought I’d seen these courses were very similar is size to SF and Bermuda, tighter grandstand courses rather than out further like before that

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