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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
    #899

    @snowy haha yep "TNZ/LR can only hope for an error at this point" (leg 3 of 6)

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    Does anybody know why they went away from the triangular courses that used to be used? At the moment they just go upwind and downwind for 6 legs. If there was a triangular course that would provide some variation.

    Back when I used to sail, the standard was once around a triangle and then a final long leg to finish.

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    @damo said in Americas Cup:

    Does anybody know why they went away from the triangular courses that used to be used? At the moment they just go upwind and downwind for 6 legs. If there was a triangular course that would provide some variation.

    Back when I used to sail, the standard was once around a triangle and then a final long leg to finish.

    It's the boats mostly (and TB coverage and spectator appeal).
    I've mentioned it before but I think an Olympic triangle doesn't really suit these boats - nor the cats. They are always upwind, because of apparent wind. Look how tight trimmed / close hauled they are "downwind". There ain't any goose wing sets anymore.

    A reach leg wouldn't involve any sailing skill, just the drag out to the mark.

    All a bit of a mind fuck for old school sailors. I call it physics, some call it witchcraft, but not much point in a triangle as I see it.

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    so on the TVNZ Sports piece, they have Burling as the 'Flight Controller' but Spittal as 'co-helmsman'

    The correct titles for TNZ are:
    Burling - helmsman
    Ashby - trimmer
    Tuke - flight controller

    Do we have co-helmsman too, or do LR have a Flight Controller?

    Bruni and Spithill are co-helmsmen (they don't change sides), Sibello is the mainsail trimmer. It looks like they also use some grinders as trimmers.

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    Burling is also Skipper as is Spithill.

    Not just helmsmen, the buck stops with them (on the water anyway).

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    @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

    LUNA ROSSA TEAM
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    @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

    LUNA ROSSA TEAM

    Thanks. I know who he is but he sure doesn't say much on board.

    Pretty sure they had Spithill listed as skipper on the TB. Is Sirena always on the boat?

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    Key question, who's responsible for making the G+Ts?

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    Fuck there's some morons out there

    Duncan why does the wind need to be strong enough? Can’t they race off foils?
    TimZ

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    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Racing at 5 knots lol

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

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    @damo said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

    Except the race wouldn't finish, they'd run out of time

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    @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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    @damo said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

    A displacement race would make me laugh, except we lost in SF due to a time limit so don't want to go there. About as fair as a CWC decided on boundaries. I'm not bitter at all, well maybe a little...fucking arseholes that make stupid rules...they don't understand the sport... they are all idiots...mutter, mutter.

    Going back to the GOM thread.

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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    @machpants That was more exciting than the current "races".

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    @canefan I think all the monohull ACs were more like that, so pre 2013 (ignoring the deed of gift), I’m sure 95-2007 were more like that

    I was thinking more recently, either SF or Bermuda

    I thought I’d seen these courses were very similar is size to SF and Bermuda, tighter grandstand courses rather than out further like before that

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    @machpants said in Americas Cup:

    @damo said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

    Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

    Except the race wouldn't finish, they'd run out of time

    Just make it one leg.

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    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

    LUNA ROSSA TEAM

    Thanks. I know who he is but he sure doesn't say much on board.

    Pretty sure they had Spithill listed as skipper on the TB. Is Sirena always on the boat?

    I don't think he is ever on the boat. The job titles seem to be arbitrary. Bruni and Spithill look to have equal on-board responsibilities for Luna Rossa.

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