Hurricanes 2021
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:
@berhamporeninja nah JGB is mud. Hopefully Love takes his opportunity and those two are a thing of the past.
Don't agree with this (re JGB). He has the odd bad game but overall has performed well for the Canes. 3 or 4 levels better than Leger
@winger said in Hurricanes 2021:
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:
@berhamporeninja nah JGB is mud. Hopefully Love takes his opportunity and those two are a thing of the past.
Don't agree with this (re JGB). He has the odd bad game but overall has performed well for the Canes. 3 or 4 levels better than Leger
Was never going to happen over golden boy JGB but would’ve rather Smith he offers more of the flair we need.
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@mikey07 probably needs a break to be fair. Yes he’s made a lot of tackles but he’s done a lot of dumb stuff in between during crucial moments of games.
Both matches against the Blues the Kirifi cards tipped the momentum towards the Blues, I’m not saying he cost us those games but he needs to be better at holding back some of that energy. Hopefully that comes with more experience.
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@canes4life yup Blackwell likely to start again and princeep who I don't mind tbh he's actually been playing well don't know why people hate on him
️ princeep ardie and Flanders would be our best against saders@berhamporeninja said in Hurricanes 2021:
@canes4life yup Blackwell likely to start again and princeep who I don't mind tbh he's actually been playing well don't know why people hate on him
️ princeep ardie and Flanders would be our best against sadersYeah, that's the trio I'd pick. Kirifi makes the loose-forward trio a bit unbalanced with Savea there too, as they are both pretty small players for loose forwards (both under 100kg). Flanders to start at 8, Savea back to 7 and Kirifi on the bench.
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@berhamporeninja said in Hurricanes 2021:
@canes4life yup Blackwell likely to start again and princeep who I don't mind tbh he's actually been playing well don't know why people hate on him
️ princeep ardie and Flanders would be our best against sadersYeah, that's the trio I'd pick. Kirifi makes the loose-forward trio a bit unbalanced with Savea there too, as they are both pretty small players for loose forwards (both under 100kg). Flanders to start at 8, Savea back to 7 and Kirifi on the bench.
@kiwi_expat that's how it was at the start of the season until they realised Kirifi was an even hotter head coming off the bench. Flanders just needs to start though, he's a too good a player to keep on the pine.
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@berhamporeninja said in Hurricanes 2021:
@canes4life yup Blackwell likely to start again and princeep who I don't mind tbh he's actually been playing well don't know why people hate on him
️ princeep ardie and Flanders would be our best against sadersYeah, that's the trio I'd pick. Kirifi makes the loose-forward trio a bit unbalanced with Savea there too, as they are both pretty small players for loose forwards (both under 100kg). Flanders to start at 8, Savea back to 7 and Kirifi on the bench.
@kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2021:
@berhamporeninja said in Hurricanes 2021:
@canes4life yup Blackwell likely to start again and princeep who I don't mind tbh he's actually been playing well don't know why people hate on him
️ princeep ardie and Flanders would be our best against sadersYeah, that's the trio I'd pick. Kirifi makes the loose-forward trio a bit unbalanced with Savea there too, as they are both pretty small players for loose forwards (both under 100kg). Flanders to start at 8, Savea back to 7 and Kirifi on the bench.
Your point still stands, but both Kirifi and Savea are listed as being over 100kg on the Canes website
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@kiwi_expat that's how it was at the start of the season until they realised Kirifi was an even hotter head coming off the bench. Flanders just needs to start though, he's a too good a player to keep on the pine.
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:
realised Kirifi was an even hotter head coming off the bench
He was terrible in the first game this year (vs Auckland) coming on as a replacement. Its an area Kirifi needs to work on as its not just a one-off issue. And now his other qualities don't make up for his hot-head momements.
I would give him a week off and try one of the other replacement 7 options. Esp if Fifita is back. And hope hes calmed down for the final 2 games.
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Just saw on the Instagram story that’s Taumateine didn’t have a bib on so I’m guessing he’s starting team would look something like this
9.Taumateine
10.Love
11.Goosen
12.Laumape
13.PUJ
14.Savea
15.Barrett@mikey07 Campbell was the halfback in the video where the team were running plays.
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:
@berhamporeninja nah JGB is mud. Hopefully Love takes his opportunity and those two are a thing of the past.
Don't agree with this (re JGB). He has the odd bad game but overall has performed well for the Canes. 3 or 4 levels better than Leger
@winger I don't really get this perspective. JGB is in a word, average.
Do we want the Canes to win the comp, or finish mid table at best?
The Canes have too many favourites. I have no doubt guys like Prinsep & Blackwell give their all at training, but, they're just not very good.
I think what Thorn did with the Reds is the right way - get rid of dead wood, and pick young guys who may amount to something. You won't always get it right but it's better than being a middling franchise like the Canes are becoming
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@mikey07 Campbell was the halfback in the video where the team were running plays.
@canes4life they had Taumateine without a bib on aswell running plays also, I don’t mind I got 5/6 right
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@winger I don't really get this perspective. JGB is in a word, average.
Do we want the Canes to win the comp, or finish mid table at best?
The Canes have too many favourites. I have no doubt guys like Prinsep & Blackwell give their all at training, but, they're just not very good.
I think what Thorn did with the Reds is the right way - get rid of dead wood, and pick young guys who may amount to something. You won't always get it right but it's better than being a middling franchise like the Canes are becoming
@foobanz said in Hurricanes 2021:
JGB is in a word, average.
As are most of the Canes firsts over the years. Barrett has been one shinning exception
But he
Defends well
Clears the line well
He was slowish but his speed has improved a lot. And maybe after the operation he will be faster still
He usually finds his man when he breaks the line (unlike Howell)
And hes strong and big enough to break the line at timesAnd great firsts don't grow on trees. So yes I would love a RM or DC. Or even a young Barrett. But we have to wait until hopefully Love proves to be Carter plus. Or even more realistically close to Carter and I would be a happier man
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@foobanz said in Hurricanes 2021:
JGB is in a word, average.
As are most of the Canes firsts over the years. Barrett has been one shinning exception
But he
Defends well
Clears the line well
He was slowish but his speed has improved a lot. And maybe after the operation he will be faster still
He usually finds his man when he breaks the line (unlike Howell)
And hes strong and big enough to break the line at timesAnd great firsts don't grow on trees. So yes I would love a RM or DC. Or even a young Barrett. But we have to wait until hopefully Love proves to be Carter plus. Or even more realistically close to Carter and I would be a happier man
@winger my point on this is more that if we select JGB calibre players, we won't win the comp - yet we do, week in and week out
it's just accepting mediocrity to me
McClutchie would have been a better choice pre season - he has more upside than JGB has.
JGB ain't gonna get any better
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@stargazer fuck it, he was awesome last game. Now just rest up for ABs
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@stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:
I wonder whether that number of weeks might be less if they had just taken him off straight away.
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@stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:
I wonder whether that number of weeks might be less if they had just taken him off straight away.
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@gt12 Yep, I can understand why he wanted to play on, but already thought during the game that it was stupid to risk it. The coach should have had the balls to pull him. That, or they should fire the team doc.
@stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:
@gt12 Yep, I can understand why he wanted to play on, but already thought during the game that it was stupid to risk it. The coach should have had the balls to pull him.
Terrible lack of professionalism too; he's a very valuable asset that just shouldn't be risked in that situation.
