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Hurricanes 2021

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  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    @berhamporeninja said in Hurricanes 2021:

    @canes4life yup Blackwell likely to start again and princeep who I don't mind tbh he's actually been playing well don't know why people hate on him 🤷🏽‍♂️ princeep ardie and Flanders would be our best against saders

    Yeah, that's the trio I'd pick. Kirifi makes the loose-forward trio a bit unbalanced with Savea there too, as they are both pretty small players for loose forwards (both under 100kg). Flanders to start at 8, Savea back to 7 and Kirifi on the bench.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2021:

    @berhamporeninja said in Hurricanes 2021:

    @canes4life yup Blackwell likely to start again and princeep who I don't mind tbh he's actually been playing well don't know why people hate on him 🤷🏽‍♂️ princeep ardie and Flanders would be our best against saders

    Yeah, that's the trio I'd pick. Kirifi makes the loose-forward trio a bit unbalanced with Savea there too, as they are both pretty small players for loose forwards (both under 100kg). Flanders to start at 8, Savea back to 7 and Kirifi on the bench.

    Your point still stands, but both Kirifi and Savea are listed as being over 100kg on the Canes website

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @kiwi_expat that's how it was at the start of the season until they realised Kirifi was an even hotter head coming off the bench. Flanders just needs to start though, he's a too good a player to keep on the pine.

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      @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

      realised Kirifi was an even hotter head coming off the bench

      He was terrible in the first game this year (vs Auckland) coming on as a replacement. Its an area Kirifi needs to work on as its not just a one-off issue. And now his other qualities don't make up for his hot-head momements.

      I would give him a week off and try one of the other replacement 7 options. Esp if Fifita is back. And hope hes calmed down for the final 2 games.

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        Just saw on the Instagram story that’s Taumateine didn’t have a bib on so I’m guessing he’s starting team would look something like this
        9.Taumateine
        10.Love
        11.Goosen
        12.Laumape
        13.PUJ
        14.Savea
        15.Barrett

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        @mikey07 Campbell was the halfback in the video where the team were running plays.

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        • WingerW Winger

          @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

          @berhamporeninja nah JGB is mud. Hopefully Love takes his opportunity and those two are a thing of the past.

          Don't agree with this (re JGB). He has the odd bad game but overall has performed well for the Canes. 3 or 4 levels better than Leger

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          @winger I don't really get this perspective. JGB is in a word, average.

          Do we want the Canes to win the comp, or finish mid table at best?

          The Canes have too many favourites. I have no doubt guys like Prinsep & Blackwell give their all at training, but, they're just not very good.

          I think what Thorn did with the Reds is the right way - get rid of dead wood, and pick young guys who may amount to something. You won't always get it right but it's better than being a middling franchise like the Canes are becoming

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @mikey07 Campbell was the halfback in the video where the team were running plays.

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            @canes4life they had Taumateine without a bib on aswell running plays also, I don’t mind I got 5/6 right 😂

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            • F foobaNZ

              @winger I don't really get this perspective. JGB is in a word, average.

              Do we want the Canes to win the comp, or finish mid table at best?

              The Canes have too many favourites. I have no doubt guys like Prinsep & Blackwell give their all at training, but, they're just not very good.

              I think what Thorn did with the Reds is the right way - get rid of dead wood, and pick young guys who may amount to something. You won't always get it right but it's better than being a middling franchise like the Canes are becoming

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              @foobanz said in Hurricanes 2021:

              JGB is in a word, average.

              As are most of the Canes firsts over the years. Barrett has been one shinning exception

              But he
              Defends well
              Clears the line well
              He was slowish but his speed has improved a lot. And maybe after the operation he will be faster still
              He usually finds his man when he breaks the line (unlike Howell)
              And hes strong and big enough to break the line at times

              And great firsts don't grow on trees. So yes I would love a RM or DC. Or even a young Barrett. But we have to wait until hopefully Love proves to be Carter plus. Or even more realistically close to Carter and I would be a happier man

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              • WingerW Winger

                @foobanz said in Hurricanes 2021:

                JGB is in a word, average.

                As are most of the Canes firsts over the years. Barrett has been one shinning exception

                But he
                Defends well
                Clears the line well
                He was slowish but his speed has improved a lot. And maybe after the operation he will be faster still
                He usually finds his man when he breaks the line (unlike Howell)
                And hes strong and big enough to break the line at times

                And great firsts don't grow on trees. So yes I would love a RM or DC. Or even a young Barrett. But we have to wait until hopefully Love proves to be Carter plus. Or even more realistically close to Carter and I would be a happier man

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                @winger my point on this is more that if we select JGB calibre players, we won't win the comp - yet we do, week in and week out

                it's just accepting mediocrity to me

                McClutchie would have been a better choice pre season - he has more upside than JGB has.

                JGB ain't gonna get any better

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                  https://twitter.com/NZStuffSport/status/1381826491911004161

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                    https://twitter.com/NZStuffSport/status/1381826491911004161

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                    @stargazer fuck it, he was awesome last game. Now just rest up for ABs

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                      Blackwell is guaranteed to start now as he seems to be the VC.

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                        https://twitter.com/NZStuffSport/status/1381826491911004161

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                        @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

                        https://twitter.com/NZStuffSport/status/1381826491911004161

                        Arse.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Blackwell is guaranteed to start now as he seems to be the VC.

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                          @bovidae I think Coles will be the captain.

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                            https://twitter.com/NZStuffSport/status/1381826491911004161

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                            @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

                            https://twitter.com/NZStuffSport/status/1381826491911004161

                            I wonder whether that number of weeks might be less if they had just taken him off straight away.

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                              @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

                              https://twitter.com/NZStuffSport/status/1381826491911004161

                              I wonder whether that number of weeks might be less if they had just taken him off straight away.

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                              @gt12 Yep, I can understand why he wanted to play on, but already thought during the game that it was stupid to risk it. The coach should have had the balls to pull him. That, or they should fire the team doc.

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                                @gt12 Yep, I can understand why he wanted to play on, but already thought during the game that it was stupid to risk it. The coach should have had the balls to pull him. That, or they should fire the team doc.

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                                @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                @gt12 Yep, I can understand why he wanted to play on, but already thought during the game that it was stupid to risk it. The coach should have had the balls to pull him.

                                Terrible lack of professionalism too; he's a very valuable asset that just shouldn't be risked in that situation.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @gt12 Yep, I can understand why he wanted to play on, but already thought during the game that it was stupid to risk it. The coach should have had the balls to pull him. That, or they should fire the team doc.

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                                  @stargazer I guess the problem is the Dr is going to go on what Ardie tells him/her, if Ardie plays down the pain or seriousness then they can only go on that.

                                  I commented at the time I hope playing on wouldn't make it worse.

                                  So how long is it before the canes findout how long they lose Laumape for?

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                                    @stargazer I guess the problem is the Dr is going to go on what Ardie tells him/her, if Ardie plays down the pain or seriousness then they can only go on that.

                                    I commented at the time I hope playing on wouldn't make it worse.

                                    So how long is it before the canes findout how long they lose Laumape for?

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                                    @taniwharugby I'm not sure he has been cited?

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                                      @taniwharugby I'm not sure he has been cited?

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                                      @stargazer thought I saw a clip on the news about him being cited?

                                      He damn well should be if not, was a RC offence

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                                        Well if there is ever a reason to lose faith in a coaching team this is it
                                        https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/trio-extend-their-time-at-hurricanes/
                                        Why oh why I understand Scranton but REALLY!

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                                          Why the fuck would you sign Savea until 2023. He should be a year by year case.

                                          These people are morons.

                                          When are the Hurricanes actually going to announce a signing we can celebrate.

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