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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • B bayimports

    @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

    @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

    @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

    Fuck me days.....how embarrassing.

    Sadly our cricketing days are full of embarrassment. Best not to dwell on it.

    Yet to be beaten......

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-tour-of-new-zealand-1954-55-61780/new-zealand-vs-england-2nd-test-62788/full-scorecard

    I was just about to bring that up, that is about the only one that still annoys me ha ha

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    @bayimports said in Black Caps tour to England:

    @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

    @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

    @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

    Fuck me days.....how embarrassing.

    Sadly our cricketing days are full of embarrassment. Best not to dwell on it.

    Yet to be beaten......

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-tour-of-new-zealand-1954-55-61780/new-zealand-vs-england-2nd-test-62788/full-scorecard

    I was just about to bring that up, that is about the only one that still annoys me ha ha

    They were well in the game for a bit as well ( 200 vs 246 )

    Sigh......makes this era all the better huh ?

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    • MN5M MN5

      @bayimports said in Black Caps tour to England:

      @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

      @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

      @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

      Fuck me days.....how embarrassing.

      Sadly our cricketing days are full of embarrassment. Best not to dwell on it.

      Yet to be beaten......

      https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-tour-of-new-zealand-1954-55-61780/new-zealand-vs-england-2nd-test-62788/full-scorecard

      I was just about to bring that up, that is about the only one that still annoys me ha ha

      They were well in the game for a bit as well ( 200 vs 246 )

      Sigh......makes this era all the better huh ?

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      @mn5 yep, much better arguing about who misses out in the batting line-up versus.. have we collapsed yet?

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        We did well to get 26. The pitch was a minefield, the English doctored it, they would have been lucky to get 10. Even Extras got a duck FFS.

        That's all I've got. I had some straws a minute ago, somewhere.

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          We did well to get 26. The pitch was a minefield, the English doctored it, they would have been lucky to get 10. Even Extras got a duck FFS.

          That's all I've got. I had some straws a minute ago, somewhere.

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          @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

          We did well to get 26. The pitch was a minefield, the English doctored it, they would have been lucky to get 10. Even Extras got a duck FFS.

          That's all I've got. I had some straws a minute ago, somewhere.

          Good yarn except the match was played in fucken Auckland haha

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          • MN5M MN5

            @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

            We did well to get 26. The pitch was a minefield, the English doctored it, they would have been lucky to get 10. Even Extras got a duck FFS.

            That's all I've got. I had some straws a minute ago, somewhere.

            Good yarn except the match was played in fucken Auckland haha

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            @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

            Good yarn except the match was played in fucken Auckland haha

            Never said it was anywhere else. They were out there changing the weather, rubbing their shoes on the pitch, bought the grounds person (never assume gender). Rumours have it ball tampering involved.

            Just found those straws.

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            • SnowyS Snowy

              @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

              Good yarn except the match was played in fucken Auckland haha

              Never said it was anywhere else. They were out there changing the weather, rubbing their shoes on the pitch, bought the grounds person (never assume gender). Rumours have it ball tampering involved.

              Just found those straws.

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              @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

              @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

              Good yarn except the match was played in fucken Auckland haha

              Never said it was anywhere else. They were out there changing the weather, rubbing their shoes on the pitch, bought the grounds person (never assume gender). Rumours have it ball tampering involved.

              Just found those straws.

              Anyone still alive ? Perhaps we could assemble survivors for a rematch ?

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                We did well to get 26. The pitch was a minefield, the English doctored it, they would have been lucky to get 10. Even Extras got a duck FFS.

                That's all I've got. I had some straws a minute ago, somewhere.

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                @snowy I know you jest and the 26 does irk me as week but we have had way more abject batting performances.

                We can all fap away about the current side but their performances on the last tour of Oz were way more disappointing than a bunch of amateurs caught on a sticky wicket against a good England side. Three of the current side were in the team that gave a heartless display in reaching 45 at Cape Town in 2012.

                So yeah I want the monkey of 26 off my back(thought England were going to do it a couple of years back) but I have seen much worse batting performances from NZ unfortunately.

                Trivia that actually is a bit of a straw to clutch. NZ has the lowest test innings but its not the lowest collective batting performance in a completed innings. In 1924 Sth Africa got to 30 against England but extra's was11. So their eleven batsmen only managed 19in total with no one making double figures. A pyrrhic victory to us!

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  @snowy I know you jest and the 26 does irk me as week but we have had way more abject batting performances.

                  We can all fap away about the current side but their performances on the last tour of Oz were way more disappointing than a bunch of amateurs caught on a sticky wicket against a good England side. Three of the current side were in the team that gave a heartless display in reaching 45 at Cape Town in 2012.

                  So yeah I want the monkey of 26 off my back(thought England were going to do it a couple of years back) but I have seen much worse batting performances from NZ unfortunately.

                  Trivia that actually is a bit of a straw to clutch. NZ has the lowest test innings but its not the lowest collective batting performance in a completed innings. In 1924 Sth Africa got to 30 against England but extra's was11. So their eleven batsmen only managed 19in total with no one making double figures. A pyrrhic victory to us!

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                  @dogmeat said in Black Caps tour to England:

                  @snowy I know you jest and the 26 does irk me as week but we have had way more abject batting performances.

                  I jest because it hurts slightly less and it has more than irked me for a lot longer than a week.

                  I would suggest that we don't delve into great NZ cricket batting failures any further - this will be a really long (and depressing) thread. I will take the small victory there though, thankyou. I have mentioned extras earlier, trust him to show when he wasn't wanted.

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    @snowy I know you jest and the 26 does irk me as week but we have had way more abject batting performances.

                    We can all fap away about the current side but their performances on the last tour of Oz were way more disappointing than a bunch of amateurs caught on a sticky wicket against a good England side. Three of the current side were in the team that gave a heartless display in reaching 45 at Cape Town in 2012.

                    So yeah I want the monkey of 26 off my back(thought England were going to do it a couple of years back) but I have seen much worse batting performances from NZ unfortunately.

                    Trivia that actually is a bit of a straw to clutch. NZ has the lowest test innings but its not the lowest collective batting performance in a completed innings. In 1924 Sth Africa got to 30 against England but extra's was11. So their eleven batsmen only managed 19in total with no one making double figures. A pyrrhic victory to us!

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                    @dogmeat https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-south-africa-2011-12-514013/south-africa-vs-australia-1st-test-514029/full-scorecard

                    This one offered massive hope.

                    Oz was 9 down for 21 where we went 9 down for 26 - another pyrrhic victory!

                    @MN5 - none of those guys are alive. John Reid and Matt Poore both died last year and they were the last.

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                      I was of the impression that our IPL contingent may not be available for the first test against England? Which would then provide an opportunity to play Conway in Kane's place and all sorts of experimentation with the bowlers, and then effectively pick the team for the WTC final to play together in the second test against England...??

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @canefan said in Black Caps tour to England:

                        No research obviously, but Lou Vincent as well?

                        Yes. Sixth kiwi to get a ton on debut. Only the second to do it overseas.

                        Would have been handy when they decided that this was important at Lords:
                        "Vincent equalled the most runs scored in boundaries (118 runs in boundaries) by a batsman in an ODI innings, when he scored 172 against Zimbabwe on 24 August 2005."

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                        @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

                        @canefan said in Black Caps tour to England:

                        No research obviously, but Lou Vincent as well?

                        Yes. Sixth kiwi to get a ton on debut. Only the second to do it overseas.

                        Would have been handy when they decided that this was important at Lords:
                        "Vincent equalled the most runs scored in boundaries (118 runs in boundaries) by a batsman in an ODI innings, when he scored 172 against Zimbabwe on 24 August 2005."

                        Fucking hell, the fact that a player like Vincent holds that record just really highlights again how absolutely ludicrous it was to decide a match on boundaries scored. I will be triggered for the rest of my life over that, and I'll make sure my bitterness lives on in my sons when I'm gone.

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

                          @canefan said in Black Caps tour to England:

                          No research obviously, but Lou Vincent as well?

                          Yes. Sixth kiwi to get a ton on debut. Only the second to do it overseas.

                          Would have been handy when they decided that this was important at Lords:
                          "Vincent equalled the most runs scored in boundaries (118 runs in boundaries) by a batsman in an ODI innings, when he scored 172 against Zimbabwe on 24 August 2005."

                          Fucking hell, the fact that a player like Vincent holds that record just really highlights again how absolutely ludicrous it was to decide a match on boundaries scored. I will be triggered for the rest of my life over that, and I'll make sure my bitterness lives on in my sons when I'm gone.

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                          @no-quarter said in Black Caps tour to England:

                          I'll make sure my bitterness lives on in my sons when I'm gone.

                          That's the spirit. You might be a millennial but we can make a GOM out of you yet. I can't listen to The Stranglers anymore because the prick of a lead singer changed the lyrics of Peaches to take the piss about our loss. He did get beer thrown over him though (not be me, I was out of range) because of it, so that was good.

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                          • SnowyS Snowy

                            @no-quarter said in Black Caps tour to England:

                            I'll make sure my bitterness lives on in my sons when I'm gone.

                            That's the spirit. You might be a millennial but we can make a GOM out of you yet. I can't listen to The Stranglers anymore because the prick of a lead singer changed the lyrics of Peaches to take the piss about our loss. He did get beer thrown over him though (not be me, I was out of range) because of it, so that was good.

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                            @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

                            @no-quarter said in Black Caps tour to England:

                            I'll make sure my bitterness lives on in my sons when I'm gone.

                            That's the spirit. You might be a millennial but we can make a GOM out of you yet. I can't listen to The Stranglers anymore because the prick of a lead singer changed the lyrics of Peaches to take the piss about our loss. He did get beer thrown over him though (not be me, I was out of range) because of it, so that was good.

                            One of the first songs I learnt on bass. What a tune

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                              @chris-b said in Black Caps tour to England:

                              @mn5 said in Black Caps tour to England:

                              @chris-b said in Black Caps tour to England:

                              @canefan said in Black Caps tour to England:

                              @crazy-horse said in Black Caps tour to England:

                              @chris-b Conway is good enough, it's pretty obvious when you watch him he is a more talented bat than Blundell. Experience might be the problem at this stage.

                              He's also better than Nicholls IMHO. There will probably be room for all of them when Rosco retires

                              He appears to be.

                              You just have to be wary of Graeme Hick syndrome.

                              Yeah he certainly didn’t have the career that was expected of him, debuting alongside Graham Gooch, Alec Stewart and Robin Smith who were all far better test players despite not dominating at first class level to the extent Hick did.

                              I’m just wondering how long we can ride this wave as fans and when/if the next generation of Hows/Redmonds/Papps/Marshall ( either or )Fultons comes in.......

                              ...and David White's. Let's not forget David White, because I hold him largely responsible for this wave.

                              Not because he's a gun administrator, but because his administration (along with Spark Sport) is responsible for me not being able to watch it. Presumably, once I can watch again, we'll return to dross.

                              So let me just say - Fuck you, David.

                              You would have been doing me a favour if you'd blocked my viewing during your playing era, but rural NZ is missing the equivalent of Sir Paddles' hey day.

                              Someone has been playing with David's stats on Wikipedia. They're not as good on Cricinfo!

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_White_(New_Zealand_cricketer)

                              Spark sport is what.. $15/month. Lay off the Ta$man bitter and you’d afford it no worries 😉

                              Edit: that reminds me I need to cancel my subscription now that cricket has finished.

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                              @gunner said in Black Caps tour to England:

                              Edit: that reminds me I need to cancel my subscription now that cricket has finished.

                              It was surprisingly easy to suspend my subscription, just one click of a button.

                              I honest thought it’d be way harder, as most companies don’t like to make it easy for you to quit their services.

                              Making it easy to pick and choose when I want to be signed up most certainly means I’ll be back.

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                                @gunner said in Black Caps tour to England:

                                Edit: that reminds me I need to cancel my subscription now that cricket has finished.

                                It was surprisingly easy to suspend my subscription, just one click of a button.

                                I honest thought it’d be way harder, as most companies don’t like to make it easy for you to quit their services.

                                Making it easy to pick and choose when I want to be signed up most certainly means I’ll be back.

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                                @gunner Cool. Will do that now. It should be just as easy to turn it on again before 2nd June for the England tests.
                                It's probably been raised before, but they aren't doing the WTC. I think Sky still has rights to all ICC tournaments. All a bit of a mess really.

                                As a side note did anyone notice if Conway got his residency issue sorted? That's NZ residency, not eligibility to play for us obviously. It was going to take 8 months to get it through and won't be allowed back into the country unless he has it.

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @gunner Cool. Will do that now. It should be just as easy to turn it on again before 2nd June for the England tests.
                                  It's probably been raised before, but they aren't doing the WTC. I think Sky still has rights to all ICC tournaments. All a bit of a mess really.

                                  As a side note did anyone notice if Conway got his residency issue sorted? That's NZ residency, not eligibility to play for us obviously. It was going to take 8 months to get it through and won't be allowed back into the country unless he has it.

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                                  @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

                                  As a side note did anyone notice if Conway got his residency issue sorted?

                                  Confirmed last week.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @snowy said in Black Caps tour to England:

                                    As a side note did anyone notice if Conway got his residency issue sorted?

                                    Confirmed last week.

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                                    @bovidae Cheers.
                                    Wish I knew many years ago that all you needed to do to get residency fast tracked was play for the Black Caps. My wife might have been good enough to make the team at the time too (a reflection on the cricket team not my wife's cricketing ability).

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                                      Colin is sporting a great Billy Ray Cyrus-like mullet.

                                      (Refer to the video in the story below)

                                      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2021/04/world-test-championship-colin-de-grandhomme-back-into-training-before-huge-blackcaps-england-tour.html

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                                        Some good news I only just picked up on is that Captain Kane's IPL team is bottom of the table. That should presumably release him from those commitments early?

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                                          I genuinely wonder how the NZers , and English and Indians, will get out of India and to England. How many options will be available by the time IPL ends?

                                          Where will they have to do quarantine?

                                          Logistical nightmare, some administrators will be earning their money.

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