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  • gt12G gt12

    @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

    Nor have I but would I make TJ a low short term offer in order to have the money to offer Fakatava a long term one plus room to add in A.Nother?
    Yep.

    What's Taufa Funaki doing progression wise? He was one for the future wasn't he?

    Only trouble with that Crucial, Fakatave maybe out for year, and apparently if doesn't represent ABs this year he miises window and can't play until 2023. Eligibilty rues or something.

    If they are going to be that fluffybunny -ish about the rules, why don't we name him to start a test and send him out there in a knee brace, and get him to stay on the sideline until the opening whistle, then fall over one second into the game, to be replaced by A smith?

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    @gt12 Or bring him on in the last minutes of the last game of the year (or organise an easy one against a tier 5 country), replacing a winger, so he can just stand close to the try line and run up and down the field a bit?

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    • BonesB Bones

      @gt12 probably better off selecting him to do the same in the 7s (if there's a tournament this year)?

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      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

      @gt12 probably better off selecting him to do the same in the 7s (if there's a tournament this year)?

      Even better.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @gt12 Or bring him on in the last minutes of the last game of the year (or organise an easy one against a tier 5 country), replacing a winger, so he can just stand close to the try line and run up and down the field a bit?

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        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

        @gt12 Or bring him on in the last minutes of the last game of the year (or organise an easy one against a tier 5 country), replacing a winger, so he can just stand close to the try line and run up and down the field a bit?

        We should be working for the NZRFU

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          if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

            if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

            Of course he is. But he's a filthy poach warranting the accusation which we will wear anyway.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

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              @mariner4life Not sure how you'd define poaching ...

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

                He's a poach, but less a poach than Shannon the Tongan, and he's a Magpie so he's a good poach.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                  if we have to pull some dodgy shit like that then maybe, just maybe, he's a filthy poach

                  How good would it be if he left the blonde part of his hair and did the rest of it white, really rub it in the Walrus' face.

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                  • SnowyS Snowy

                    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Do people reckon retalick will walk straight into the all blacks squad?

                    Straight back into the starting XV. We missed his aggression and hard edge last year.

                    Who would you kick from the squad then?

                    I thought whitelock but he is likely to captan so...
                    Tuipulotu?

                    Whatttt Whitelock has been the best Lock in SR, no way is he being dropped.Even he isn't Captain.

                    Whitelock is a lock at lock, even if he isn't locked in as Captain.

                    I have questioned his form recently and watched closely versing the 'canes- he gets through a power of work. Think that they put up a stat about his tackle count for the whole comp. He's still got it (mutter, mutter about over worked).

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                    @snowy said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Do people reckon retalick will walk straight into the all blacks squad?

                    Straight back into the starting XV. We missed his aggression and hard edge last year.

                    Who would you kick from the squad then?

                    I thought whitelock but he is likely to captan so...
                    Tuipulotu?

                    Whatttt Whitelock has been the best Lock in SR, no way is he being dropped.Even he isn't Captain.

                    Whitelock is a lock at lock, even if he isn't locked in as Captain.

                    I have questioned his form recently and watched closely versing the 'canes- he gets through a power of work. Think that they put up a stat about his tackle count for the whole comp. He's still got it (mutter, mutter about over worked).

                    Upvote for versing

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                    • Dan54D Dan54

                      @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

                      Nor have I but would I make TJ a low short term offer in order to have the money to offer Fakatava a long term one plus room to add in A.Nother?
                      Yep.

                      What's Taufa Funaki doing progression wise? He was one for the future wasn't he?

                      Only trouble with that Crucial, Fakatave maybe out for year, and apparently if doesn't represent ABs this year he miises window and can't play until 2023. Eligibilty rues or something.

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                      @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

                      Nor have I but would I make TJ a low short term offer in order to have the money to offer Fakatava a long term one plus room to add in A.Nother?
                      Yep.

                      What's Taufa Funaki doing progression wise? He was one for the future wasn't he?

                      Only trouble with that Crucial, Fakatave maybe out for year, and apparently if doesn't represent ABs this year he miises window and can't play until 2023. Eligibilty rues or something.

                      Can anyone confirm this, or did this originate on The Breakdown? (refer earlier discussion about TJP.)

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                        No discussion about 7/8 options to replace Ardie?

                        Well, 7 options really.

                        Cane
                        Savea
                        Papalii
                        ??

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          No discussion about 7/8 options to replace Ardie?

                          Well, 7 options really.

                          Cane
                          Savea
                          Papalii
                          ??

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                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                          No discussion about 7/8 options to replace Ardie?

                          Well, 7 options really.

                          Cane
                          Savea
                          Papalii
                          ??

                          Mind you it's 8 weeks. When's the first test?

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                            No discussion about 7/8 options to replace Ardie?

                            Well, 7 options really.

                            Cane
                            Savea
                            Papalii
                            ??

                            Mind you it's 8 weeks. When's the first test?

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                            @booboo test rugby is more than 8 weeks away.

                            The Trans Ta$man Comp will still be going in 8 weeks (it's 5 rounds + a final and it doesn't start for another 4.5 weeks)

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

                              Nor have I but would I make TJ a low short term offer in order to have the money to offer Fakatava a long term one plus room to add in A.Nother?
                              Yep.

                              What's Taufa Funaki doing progression wise? He was one for the future wasn't he?

                              Only trouble with that Crucial, Fakatave maybe out for year, and apparently if doesn't represent ABs this year he miises window and can't play until 2023. Eligibilty rues or something.

                              Can anyone confirm this, or did this originate on The Breakdown? (refer earlier discussion about TJP.)

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                              @booboo It was briefly discussed on the Breakdown. This article on Rugbypass followed:

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-eligibility-laws-could-prevent-folau-fakatava-from-playing-for-the-all-blacks-upon-return-from-injury/

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @booboo It was briefly discussed on the Breakdown. This article on Rugbypass followed:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-eligibility-laws-could-prevent-folau-fakatava-from-playing-for-the-all-blacks-upon-return-from-injury/

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                                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @booboo It was briefly discussed on the Breakdown. This article on Rugbypass followed:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-eligibility-laws-could-prevent-folau-fakatava-from-playing-for-the-all-blacks-upon-return-from-injury/

                                “Folau Fakatava’s ACL injury suffered in the Highlanders’ loss to the Chiefs...”

                                They fuck up the first sentence...

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

                                  Nor have I but would I make TJ a low short term offer in order to have the money to offer Fakatava a long term one plus room to add in A.Nother?
                                  Yep.

                                  What's Taufa Funaki doing progression wise? He was one for the future wasn't he?

                                  Only trouble with that Crucial, Fakatave maybe out for year, and apparently if doesn't represent ABs this year he miises window and can't play until 2023. Eligibilty rues or something.

                                  Can anyone confirm this, or did this originate on The Breakdown? (refer earlier discussion about TJP.)

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                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

                                  Nor have I but would I make TJ a low short term offer in order to have the money to offer Fakatava a long term one plus room to add in A.Nother?
                                  Yep.

                                  What's Taufa Funaki doing progression wise? He was one for the future wasn't he?

                                  Only trouble with that Crucial, Fakatave maybe out for year, and apparently if doesn't represent ABs this year he miises window and can't play until 2023. Eligibilty rues or something.

                                  Can anyone confirm this, or did this originate on The Breakdown? (refer earlier discussion about TJP.)

                                  Yep mate I admit it came from Breakdown, but had heard someone say somewhere else about the need to get him in for eligibilty reasons, but had't really taken much notice. I heard something similar about another player (I bauugered if I can remember who) on a podcast, but once again just went over my head a bit .

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                                    So weird that they have to play - just make a cut off date. If a player meets that date, he can declare for the country and be selected in the future.

                                    WR are just opening the door for unwarranted caps in 2021 by teams wanting to ensure a players eligibility.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      So weird that they have to play - just make a cut off date. If a player meets that date, he can declare for the country and be selected in the future.

                                      WR are just opening the door for unwarranted caps in 2021 by teams wanting to ensure a players eligibility.

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                                      @nepia Yep, one of the reasons underlying this strange rule is to ensure that the residency is uninterrupted by "longish" stays in the player's country of origin before they represent their new country.

                                      If they just checked whether a player hasn't been back to his home country in the period between the date he has met the 3-year residency period and the date on which he represents his new country for the first time, that should be enough. Instead, they want the player to immediately represent the new country when the residency requirement is met. That's just silly if players - due to circumstances beyond anyone's control (pandemic, injury) - can't represent their new country immediately.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        So weird that they have to play - just make a cut off date. If a player meets that date, he can declare for the country and be selected in the future.

                                        WR are just opening the door for unwarranted caps in 2021 by teams wanting to ensure a players eligibility.

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                                        @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        WR are just opening the door for unwarranted caps in 2021 by teams wanting to ensure a players eligibility.

                                        I was even going to suggest that we sent Fakatava onto the field v Italy wearing black and using crutches. His selection wouldn't be unwarranted but it would solve this stupid problem.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          So weird that they have to play - just make a cut off date. If a player meets that date, he can declare for the country and be selected in the future.

                                          WR are just opening the door for unwarranted caps in 2021 by teams wanting to ensure a players eligibility.

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                                          @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          So weird that they have to play - just make a cut off date. If a player meets that date, he can declare for the country and be selected in the future.

                                          WR are just opening the door for unwarranted caps in 2021 by teams wanting to ensure a players eligibility.

                                          I don't know why WR couldn't have made it clear that if a player would've been available prior to the rule change then the new regs still shouldn't apply to that player.

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