All Blacks 2021
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Given the first few games are likely to be a big factor in Fozzies future as AB coach, I'm not sure hevis gonna stay too far from what he knows, we saw that last year and the fact there was little freshness to the squad or the game plan
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 if you watched a game now an again, you'd realise that statement is so 90s.
Its 2021 that's 30 years ago... most/some of us were not even born then
@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 if you watched a game now an again, you'd realise that statement is so 90s.
Its 2021 that's 30 years ago... most/some of us were not even born then
Not sure you have a good grasp on the Fern demographic
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Might be off topic but what do we think the chances are of having North vs South again this year?
@yeetyaah they should be doing this every year. That game last year was probably the game of the season.
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@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 if you watched a game now an again, you'd realise that statement is so 90s.
Its 2021 that's 30 years ago... most/some of us were not even born then
Not sure you have a good grasp on the Fern demographic
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If the ABs are going to do a bolter or an apprentice this year then look no further than De Groot imho.
@billy-tell Him and that Chiefs fella Ross (?) both look like good prospects.
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Might be off topic but what do we think the chances are of having North vs South again this year?
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@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
Might be off topic but what do we think the chances are of having North vs South again this year?
Increasingly likely if Italy decide not to visit NZ.
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@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
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@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
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@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
I don’t rate Italy either, but a different opposition will bring a different preparation, different challenge and the fact that it’s the All Blacks and test match footy.
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
I don’t rate Italy either, but a different opposition will bring a different preparation, different challenge and the fact that it’s the All Blacks and test match footy.
@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
I don’t rate Italy either, but a different opposition will bring a different preparation, different challenge and the fact that it’s the All Blacks and test match footy.
Purely a ruse to ensure you get to bring up your mates T Chief, etc...
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
I don’t rate Italy either, but a different opposition will bring a different preparation, different challenge and the fact that it’s the All Blacks and test match footy.
Purely a ruse to ensure you get to bring up your mates T Chief, etc...
@bones got my team list ready to go
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Lost track of squad numbers, and need, if any, for utility value.
Although Moody out, I feel we’ve got two good options at LH in Karl and Ross. Then there’s Hodgman, who was AB experience but a bit meh, and O’Neill who’s solid but injured. De Groot and Norris seem names for future.
TH concerns me, though. Nepo is international level scrummager and Ofa good against most teams. Lomax and Ta’avao are shaky at top level, although the latter is savvy and cheats to compensate.
For me the second best TH scrummager at the mo is Sione Mafileo, another product of Wesley. Held up well today against big Karl, and would be interesting to see what the AB team could do on his overall game.
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@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
Disagree. Italy were appalling bad in 6 Nations. The ABs should wrack up 80+ points again them. I would prefer a contest, thank you.
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@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
Conceding defeat already
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
Disagree. Italy were appalling bad in 6 Nations. The ABs should wrack up 80+ points again them. I would prefer a contest, thank you.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
Disagree. Italy were appalling bad in 6 Nations. The ABs should wrack up 80+ points again them. I would prefer a contest, thank you.
At least it means something. Some ABs have made their debut vs Italy in the past and gone on to play more test footy. That has happened even when the result was not in doubt.
Nobody remembers “debuts” in Nth vs Sth...
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I don't get the impression Foster et al. are sold on Laumape. And he lacks the versatility of his competitors like DH et alone a comparable kicking game.
NB I'm assuming JB has a lock on FB, (I mean, he was starting on the wing so the coaches love him, that they have enough wings (one or two of whom can FB, Jordan, Bridge?*) but that DH being a FB as well and being more consistently in form gives him the edge over NL.
And givn ALB is competing at 12 against DH/NL and at 13 against Ioane (I assume PUJ has not had enough game time to shine) they'd probably prefer DH/ALB to ALB/RI but RI has a chance on the bench as he also provides fairly handy wing cover.
*I wonder how highly they rate DMac at 15/10 cover.
**I'm not sure what is happening with RM/BB at 10 or BB at 15. I'd assume JB is ahead of his bro at 15.
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I don't get the impression Foster et al. are sold on Laumape. And he lacks the versatility of his competitors like DH et alone a comparable kicking game.
NB I'm assuming JB has a lock on FB, (I mean, he was starting on the wing so the coaches love him, that they have enough wings (one or two of whom can FB, Jordan, Bridge?*) but that DH being a FB as well and being more consistently in form gives him the edge over NL.
And givn ALB is competing at 12 against DH/NL and at 13 against Ioane (I assume PUJ has not had enough game time to shine) they'd probably prefer DH/ALB to ALB/RI but RI has a chance on the bench as he also provides fairly handy wing cover.
*I wonder how highly they rate DMac at 15/10 cover.
**I'm not sure what is happening with RM/BB at 10 or BB at 15. I'd assume JB is ahead of his bro at 15.
apologies: perhaps this belongs in All Black not Blues thread..(oh, thanks mods!).@nostrildamus said in Blues 2021:
I don't get the impression Foster et al. are sold on Laumape. And he lacks the versatility of his competitors like DH et alone a comparable kicking game.
NB I'm assuming JB has a lock on FB, (I mean, he was starting on the wing so the coaches love him, that they have enough wings (one or two of whom can FB, Jordan, Bridge?*) but that DH being a FB as well and being more consistently in form gives him the edge over NL.
And givn ALB is competing at 12 against DH/NL and at 13 against Ioane (I assume PUJ has not had enough game time to shine) they'd probably prefer DH/ALB to ALB/RI but RI has a chance on the bench as he also provides fairly handy wing cover.
*I wonder how highly they rate DMac at 15/10 cover.
**I'm not sure what is happening with RM/BB at 10 or BB at 15. I'd assume JB is ahead of his bro at 15.
apologies: perhaps this belongs in All Black not Blues thread..(oh, thanks mods!).I would like to see Havili/ALB MF lots of smarts ands extra kicking ability of Havili he creates space well for his outsides.
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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2021:
I don't get the impression Foster et al. are sold on Laumape. And he lacks the versatility of his competitors like DH et alone a comparable kicking game.
NB I'm assuming JB has a lock on FB, (I mean, he was starting on the wing so the coaches love him, that they have enough wings (one or two of whom can FB, Jordan, Bridge?*) but that DH being a FB as well and being more consistently in form gives him the edge over NL.
And givn ALB is competing at 12 against DH/NL and at 13 against Ioane (I assume PUJ has not had enough game time to shine) they'd probably prefer DH/ALB to ALB/RI but RI has a chance on the bench as he also provides fairly handy wing cover.
*I wonder how highly they rate DMac at 15/10 cover.
**I'm not sure what is happening with RM/BB at 10 or BB at 15. I'd assume JB is ahead of his bro at 15.
apologies: perhaps this belongs in All Black not Blues thread..(oh, thanks mods!).I would like to see Havili/ALB MF lots of smarts ands extra kicking ability of Havili he creates space well for his outsides.
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@chris and you'd assume even with his preference of playing 15 over 12, a black 12 jersey would likely sway him
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris and you'd assume even with his preference of playing 15 over 12, a black 12 jersey would likely sway him
I am sure he will, he’s playing 12 for the Crusaders so he must be ok with playing in that position after sometime in the saddle.
