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    @canefan said in Coffee:

    @nzzp said in Coffee:

    @canefan they've been sold to a big multinational I think

    Yup. Asahi? Some Japanese brewery. Japanese are crazy for coffee so I expect lots of allpress stockists next time I go to Tokyo

    I believe the big growth market that beverage companies are targeting is cold coffee. I don't quite see it but Costa was brought out for millions just to get a recognised brand to put on cans.
    Will be interesting to see where they take the brand.

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    @crucial said in Coffee:

    @canefan said in Coffee:

    @nzzp said in Coffee:

    @canefan they've been sold to a big multinational I think

    Yup. Asahi? Some Japanese brewery. Japanese are crazy for coffee so I expect lots of allpress stockists next time I go to Tokyo

    I believe the big growth market that beverage companies are targeting is cold coffee. I don't quite see it but Costa was brought out for millions just to get a recognised brand to put on cans.
    Will be interesting to see where they take the brand.

    When I was in Japan we drunk heaps of canned coffee. They even had hot canned coffee out of the vending machine which I thought was very cool

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    Can't really comment on relative merits of coffee but can say Hervey Bay does have a great little coffee roastery which makes really nice coffee.

    http://www.misscocoascoffeeherveybay.com

    Just saw this too:
    https://miss-cocoas-coffee-roastery-drive-thru.business.site/

    (So there's only two coffee outlets in Melbourne who are better?)

    But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?

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    @crucial

    The convenience market is the key one here and people are starting to demand higher quality coffee and โ€˜brandedโ€™ images.

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    @booboo said in Coffee:

    But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?

    Hasn't everyone agreed that's a myth? I mean it isn't like every single coffee I've had in any city is consistently at a certain level.

    I've had some good coffee all over the place, and some fairly ordinary muck as well.

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    @nta said in Coffee:

    @booboo said in Coffee:

    But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?

    Hasn't everyone agreed that's a myth? I mean it isn't like every single coffee I've had in any city is consistently at a certain level.

    I've had some good coffee all over the place, and some fairly ordinary muck as well.

    Small sample size, but when I've been in Italy I've had great espresso. Haven't been back for over 10 years now, but last time I was in France everyone was using automatic machines where before it was hand made. Thought that was a bit lazy

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    @nta said in Coffee:

    @booboo said in Coffee:

    But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?

    Hasn't everyone agreed that's a myth? I mean it isn't like every single coffee I've had in any city is consistently at a certain level.

    I've had some good coffee all over the place, and some fairly ordinary muck as well.

    No one seemed to agree with me when I stated it, but you're getting the likes now. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    In Italy, a morning espresso at the local cafe is a ritual. I've never had a bad coffee there myself. No idea about flat whites - not my thing. ๐Ÿ™‚

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    @bovidae said in Coffee:

    In Italy, a morning espresso at the local cafe is a ritual. I've never had a bad coffee there myself. No idea about flat whites - not my thing. ๐Ÿ™‚

    They are the masters. Never too hot, strong but not bitter

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    @canefan it's a long time since I was in France but at that time their coffee was universally horrid.

    Like the yanks talk a good talk but...

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    @dogmeat said in Coffee:

    @canefan it's a long time since I was in France but at that time their coffee was universally horrid.

    Like the yanks talk a good talk but...

    So in character then. Pound for pound you can eat and drink much better in Italy than in France

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    @crucial said in Coffee:

    @canefan said in Coffee:

    @nzzp said in Coffee:

    @canefan they've been sold to a big multinational I think

    Yup. Asahi? Some Japanese brewery. Japanese are crazy for coffee so I expect lots of allpress stockists next time I go to Tokyo

    I believe the big growth market that beverage companies are targeting is cold coffee. I don't quite see it but Costa was brought out for millions just to get a recognised brand to put on cans.
    Will be interesting to see where they take the brand.

    When I worked in Japan during the Gulf War cold Georgia coffee beans in a can was my go - to.
    Then again we didn't have many options where I lived/worked..

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    @nzzp said in Coffee:

    @ploughboy said in Coffee:

    i bought a stove top/moka pot and grind my own beans(yes i know what i said) best thing is its not a expesso .i good machine costs a bomb and cheap ones are shit.pot cost about $100 stainless steel they are now over$200 grinder cost more than the pot.and i can have an expesso when im out.

    We were on stove top moka - really simple and easy, and half decent coffee.

    Have now moved over to a ROK Presso. Basically a very simple hand pull - double lever action. Makes a decent espresso with a solid crema, fast and easy to use. Only a couple of hundy too. We use ours about 20x a week easy, and have relegated our moka pots to the back of the cupboard.

    Presso

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    Edit: also great for travelling/camping, as all yo uneed is hot water. Very portable.

    Got one of these - a thing of beauty; copper and chrome
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    I love even the look of it. Will it double as a handy torture device?

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    @nepia said in Coffee:

    @nta said in Coffee:

    @booboo said in Coffee:

    But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?

    Hasn't everyone agreed that's a myth? I mean it isn't like every single coffee I've had in any city is consistently at a certain level.

    I've had some good coffee all over the place, and some fairly ordinary muck as well.

    No one seemed to agree with me when I stated it, but you're getting the likes now. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Because you actually started this thread with:
    "Not at all, I just think Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated."

    NTA on the other hand was diplomatic, even Svengali-like.

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    @nostrildamus said in Coffee:

    @nepia said in Coffee:

    @nta said in Coffee:

    @booboo said in Coffee:

    But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?

    Hasn't everyone agreed that's a myth? I mean it isn't like every single coffee I've had in any city is consistently at a certain level.

    I've had some good coffee all over the place, and some fairly ordinary muck as well.

    No one seemed to agree with me when I stated it, but you're getting the likes now. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Because you actually started this thread with:
    "Not at all, I just think Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated."

    NTA on the other hand was diplomatic, even Svengali-like.

    I didn't actually start this thread ... the mods did. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I had used myth in my actual OP IIRC.

    Anyway, I don't need the credit, just the satisfaction of being right is enough ...

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    @nepia I meant you started this thread as in because of your post..sorry for any confusion.
    Nope haven't seen any evidence so far that Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated.
    I grant you Sydney coffee might be as good in places, but that wasn't the provocative statement.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @nostrildamus said in Coffee:

    @nepia I meant you started this thread as in because of your post..sorry for any confusion.
    Nope haven't seen any evidence so far that Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated.
    I grant you Sydney coffee might be as good in places, but that wasn't the provocative statement.

    Haha, all good.

    You should add to @KiwiMurph's list of decent coffee places, when he gets round to listing it.

    Even the born and bred Melbournians I give shit to about their overrated coffee don't go to the mattresses as quick as the Fern fans of Melbourne coffee. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    @bovidae said in Coffee:

    In Italy, a morning espresso at the local cafe is a ritual. I've never had a bad coffee there myself. No idea about flat whites - not my thing. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Donโ€™t like Italian coffee because you need a magnifying glass to find the coffee in the cup. I live in Switzerland where the quality is just as good but you actually get a decent amount to drink in the cup not a small single mouthful.

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    @billy-tell Turkish then

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    @billy-tell said in Coffee:

    @bovidae said in Coffee:

    In Italy, a morning espresso at the local cafe is a ritual. I've never had a bad coffee there myself. No idea about flat whites - not my thing. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Donโ€™t like Italian coffee because you need a magnifying glass to find the coffee in the cup. I live in Switzerland where the quality is just as good but you actually get a decent amount to drink in the cup not a small single mouthful.

    Grรผezi,

    Yeah, I liked the coffee when I lived in Basel. Strong, rich and not bitter. Loved the little chocolates they served with it at well.

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