Coffee
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@canefan they've been sold to a big multinational I think
Yup. Asahi? Some Japanese brewery. Japanese are crazy for coffee so I expect lots of allpress stockists next time I go to Tokyo
I believe the big growth market that beverage companies are targeting is cold coffee. I don't quite see it but Costa was brought out for millions just to get a recognised brand to put on cans.
Will be interesting to see where they take the brand.When I worked in Japan during the Gulf War cold Georgia coffee beans in a can was my go - to.
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@ploughboy said in Coffee:
i bought a stove top/moka pot and grind my own beans(yes i know what i said) best thing is its not a expesso .i good machine costs a bomb and cheap ones are shit.pot cost about $100 stainless steel they are now over$200 grinder cost more than the pot.and i can have an expesso when im out.
We were on stove top moka - really simple and easy, and half decent coffee.
Have now moved over to a ROK Presso. Basically a very simple hand pull - double lever action. Makes a decent espresso with a solid crema, fast and easy to use. Only a couple of hundy too. We use ours about 20x a week easy, and have relegated our moka pots to the back of the cupboard.
Edit: also great for travelling/camping, as all yo uneed is hot water. Very portable.
Got one of these - a thing of beauty; copper and chrome
I love even the look of it. Will it double as a handy torture device?
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But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?
Hasn't everyone agreed that's a myth? I mean it isn't like every single coffee I've had in any city is consistently at a certain level.
I've had some good coffee all over the place, and some fairly ordinary muck as well.
No one seemed to agree with me when I stated it, but you're getting the likes now.
Because you actually started this thread with:
"Not at all, I just think Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated."NTA on the other hand was diplomatic, even Svengali-like.
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@nostrildamus said in Coffee:
But seriously why is Melbourne coffee so great?
Hasn't everyone agreed that's a myth? I mean it isn't like every single coffee I've had in any city is consistently at a certain level.
I've had some good coffee all over the place, and some fairly ordinary muck as well.
No one seemed to agree with me when I stated it, but you're getting the likes now.
Because you actually started this thread with:
"Not at all, I just think Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated."NTA on the other hand was diplomatic, even Svengali-like.
I didn't actually start this thread ... the mods did.
I had used myth in my actual OP IIRC.
Anyway, I don't need the credit, just the satisfaction of being right is enough ...
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@nepia I meant you started this thread as in because of your post..sorry for any confusion.
Nope haven't seen any evidence so far that Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated.
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@nostrildamus said in Coffee:
@nepia I meant you started this thread as in because of your post..sorry for any confusion.
Nope haven't seen any evidence so far that Melbourne coffee is hugely overrated.
I grant you Sydney coffee might be as good in places, but that wasn't the provocative statement.Haha, all good.
You should add to @KiwiMurph's list of decent coffee places, when he gets round to listing it.
Even the born and bred Melbournians I give shit to about their overrated coffee don't go to the mattresses as quick as the Fern fans of Melbourne coffee.
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In Italy, a morning espresso at the local cafe is a ritual. I've never had a bad coffee there myself. No idea about flat whites - not my thing.
Don’t like Italian coffee because you need a magnifying glass to find the coffee in the cup. I live in Switzerland where the quality is just as good but you actually get a decent amount to drink in the cup not a small single mouthful.
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@billy-tell Turkish then
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@billy-tell said in Coffee:
In Italy, a morning espresso at the local cafe is a ritual. I've never had a bad coffee there myself. No idea about flat whites - not my thing.
Don’t like Italian coffee because you need a magnifying glass to find the coffee in the cup. I live in Switzerland where the quality is just as good but you actually get a decent amount to drink in the cup not a small single mouthful.
Grüezi,
Yeah, I liked the coffee when I lived in Basel. Strong, rich and not bitter. Loved the little chocolates they served with it at well.
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@catogrande said in Coffee:
So here's mine. We've had it well over 20 years now and it's never given us any trouble.
cid:5BFC1FDD-A90D-46DF-ACBE-990EBDA5B693Jesus scrolling back through this thread that made me LOL. Nothing wrong with a good spoon ay Cato!
Anyone tried coffee bags?
Mesmerising stuff.
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So many comments here describing a style of coffee rather than quality itself. A quality ristretto is as good as a quality flat white is as good as a quality drip.
It's personal preference as to style and then you can comment on whether 'places' generally make that style well.Back to the Melbourne argument and I guess it has changed over the years but generally speaking I didn't like milk coffees in Oz back 15 years ago because they followed the Italian way and single shotted them whereby we were used to the standard Welly double shot. Also back then there weren't as many local roasterys around so imported brands like Lavazza were everywhere and using aribica/robusta blends.
I guess the point is to try to work out what style is done best where.Don't order a FW in the US unless you are really confident in the cafe or they are happy to take an order based on ratios (generally they think a small coffee is what we would call large).
Italy/ Tirol Austria - Double espresso (or order two) followed by fresh water
France - In Paris, double shot espresso topped 2:1 with hot water. Elsewhere? good luck.
UK - research and find the only good cafe in the area. Taking pot luck is a huge risk. Never ever drink Costa (it's like a bad version of Starbucks if that is possible) -
@stargazer said in Highlanders v Rebels:
@kiwiwomble Yeah, they play 3 consecutive rounds in NZ. Why go back?
The coffee?
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@kruse slight tangent, ive always found the melbourne/coffee thing funny, since ive been here id say two thirds of the aussies i work with go for a 7eleven $1 coffee over a fancy one
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@kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Rebels:
a fancy one
i would love to know the threshold for this descriptor
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@mariner4life anything not made by yourself using a kettle or by some sort of automated machine
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@kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Rebels:
@mariner4life anything not made by yourself using a kettle or by some sort of automated machine
lol it's like it's 1995 again, a flat white is a fancy coffee
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@kiwiwomble said in Highlanders v Rebels:
@kruse slight tangent, ive always found the melbourne/coffee thing funny, since ive been here id say two thirds of the aussies i work with go for a 7eleven $1 coffee over a fancy one
I'll have a black coffee from the 7/11 without complaint ...
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