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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    My question at present is whether the selectors can continue to dismiss the Bosh.
    When you think that they selected Kirifi ahead of him it doesn't fill you with hope.

    Somewhere in the back of my mind I have this feeling Boshier was injured. Could be wrong though.

    He might have been returning from injury? But he was still gutted (well he said a little disappointed, but I'm going full nz media on this one):

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300141063/overlooked-and-overcooked-lachlan-boshier-on-his-all-blacks-anguish

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    That young no.12 from the Chiefs must be in the conversation now. Does he have a kicking game? Distribution seems sound.

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    It's worthwhile including this info when we talk about the makeup of the squad.

    Foster said the plan was to pick 35 for July, then disassemble and re-select a second squad the same size for the championship and extra Bledisloe. He admitted July would present the opportunity to look at some fringe contenders, but pledged to pick as close as he can to full-strength groups.
    
    He confirmed Beauden Barrett and Brodie Retallick would both be available for selection for July, though TJ Perenara was likely to have to play some domestic rugby before he could be considered because of his contractual situation.
    
    On the injury front they are still looking at early to mid-September for Sam Cane’s return to action, so it was likely he would figure only on the November tour: Ardie Savea was due back on the field over the next week or two; Jack Goodhue is out for a full year; and Joe Moody is looking at early-September from his foot problem.
    
    The coach confirmed he had picked his replacement captain, but would not name him until the July squad was selected.
    
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    So no Moody, Goodhue, Cane, and Perenara for the July squad.

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    I'm sure they will find some way of selecting TJP, even if it is initially for the Maori game against Samoa.

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    @old-samurai-jack Nankivell?

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    @bones That's the one. Probably a bit early yet but showing some real promise.

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    I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.

    Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao

    Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund

    Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i

    Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu

    Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond

    First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie

    Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen

    Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett

    Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.

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    @frye said in All Blacks 2021:

    An absolute plethora of backrow talent available right now. Even with Cane and Savea injured.

    I'd love to see Jacobson, Papali'i and Blackadder in the same backrow.

    Incredible that the likes of Frizzell, Ioane, Grace or Sotutu could miss out on a 23

    Have to agree. Speaks volumes for the current 6/7/8 pool that the likes of Devan Flanders doesn't get a mention.

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    @sparky good list. #9 looks shallow.
    I'm a bit happier about DM at 10 now.
    Would suspect Rieko has an edge along with Leicester for potential midfield support.
    Is Angus Ta'avao playing that well?
    And doesn't SB have some lock/6 competition?

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    What about world cup team?

    It is only two years away...

    This is my pick at the moment:

    1. A Hogman

    2. C Taylor

    3. N Laulala

    4. S Whitelock

    5. S Barrett

    6. E Blackadder / or T Robinson

    7. S Cane(c)

    8. H Sotutu or A Savea

    9. A Smith

    10. R Moanga

    11. C Clarke

    12. D Havili

    13. A Lenert-Brown

    14. W Jordan

    15. DMac or J Barrett

    16. E De Groot

    17. A Aumua

    18. O Tuangafassi

    19. T Vaii

    20. A Ioane or A Savea (depending on who starts)

    21. F Fakatava

    22. B Barrett

    23. R Ioane

    No RTS cos I'm not sure how they will play him. Although if they play him in 15 he will likely be a shoe in.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    I wrote down this two weeks ago as an AB 36 just after Super Rugby Aotearoa finished.

    Props: Karl T, Hodgman, De Groot, Laulala, Ofa. T, Angus Ta'avao

    Hooker: Taylor, Aumua, Eklund

    Lock: S. Whitelock (c) , B. Retallick, S. Barrett, Vaa'i

    Back row: A. Ioane, S. Frizell, C. Grace, A. Savea, D. Papali'i, L Jacobson, H. Sotutu

    Half Backs: A. Smith, B. Weber, M. Drummond

    First Fives: R. Mo'unga, B. Barrett, D. McKenzie

    Midfield: D. Havili, ALB, Nankivell, Peter Umaga-Jensen

    Back three: R. Ioane, W. Jordan, S. Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, C. Garden-Bachop, J. Barrett

    Probably one too many outside back so one of Nankivell, PUJ or Connor Garden-Bachop can drop out. Tom Robinson and Lachlan Bolshier are in cracking form so could get picked in the back row if one. or more of the capped ABs are injured. Blackadder and Harmon are playing the best Rugby of their careers so far.

    CGB is gone for the season and PUJ hasn't played or shown much

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    @mackerzzzz

    I'd go for Akira at 6. Think he showed last year he's turned the corner and his work rate in the Trans Ta$man has been exceptional.

    Would like both Robinson and Blackaddder to get some game time to see how they go. And I'd want to give Jacobson a start at 8 as well as Sotutu.

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    @mackerzzzz Didn't know CGB was out for the season. Scrub him from my list and that makes 35.

    I'd stick with PUJ even though his form hasn't been great. Think he's a handful off the bench for the opposition at International level. Rate his skills and potential more than Ennor's.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @sparky good list. #9 looks shallow.
    I'm a bit happier about DM at 10 now.
    Would suspect Rieko has an edge along with Leicester for potential midfield support.
    Is Angus Ta'avao playing that well?
    And doesn't SB have some lock/6 competition?

    Agree about 9. I've been impressed by both the Chiefs and the Highlanders scrums this year. I was worried a couple of weeks ago about Tom. Robinson's defensive work rate, but that has been improved in the last two games.

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    @sparky De Groot is definitely one for the future but I think he is behind Ross in the LH prop pecking order.

    Coles will still be there as you can't beat experience.

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    Remember when we didn't have enough competition for the 6 spot?

    Kind of the opposite now.

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    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    @sparky De Groot is definitely one for the future but I think he is behind Ross in the LH prop pecking order.

    Ross in fantastic form this year. Think De Groot might be the better long-term propsect.

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    Barring injuries i'd like to see this team get a crack early on in the season:

    1. Hodgman
    2. Taylor
    3. Tu'ungafasi
    4. Barrett
    5. Whitelock (c)
    6. Jacobson
    7. Savea
    8. Sotutu
    9. Smith
    10. Mo'unga
    11. Ioane
    12. Havili
    13. Leinert Brown
    14. Jordan
    15. J Barrett
    16. Aumua
    17. Tu'unukuafe
    18. Laulaula
    19. Rettalick
    20. Papali'i
    21. Weber
    22. McKenzie
    23. Fainga'anuku
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    #551
    1. Karl T
    2. Taylor
    3. Laulala
    4. Retallick
    5. Whitelock
    6. A. Ioane
    7. A. Savea
    8. H. Sotutu
    9. A. Smith
    10. R. Mo'unga
    11. L. Fainga'anuka
    12. D. Havaii
    13. ALB
    14. W. Jordan
    15. J. Barrett
    16. A. Aumua
    17. E. De Groot
    18. Ofa T
    19. S. Barrett
    20. D. Papali'i
    21. Weber
    22. B. Barrett
    23. R. Ioane
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