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    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

    Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

    Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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    • pukunuiP pukunui
      1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

      Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

      One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
      Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

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      Canes4life
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      #781

      @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

      1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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        Big savea fan but this is my team so far:

        1. Hogman

        2. Taylor

        3. Laulala

        4. Whitelock

        5. Vaii

        6. Robinson/Blackadder

        7. Papalii

        8. Sotutu

        9. Smith

        10. Moanga

        11. Fianganuku

        12. Havili

        13. Lenert-Brown

        14. Jordan

        15. J Barrett

        16. De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)

        17. Aumua

        18. Tuangafasi

        19. Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)

        20. A Savea

        21. Webber

        22. DMac

        23. Reece

        A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.

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          Big savea fan but this is my team so far:

          1. Hogman

          2. Taylor

          3. Laulala

          4. Whitelock

          5. Vaii

          6. Robinson/Blackadder

          7. Papalii

          8. Sotutu

          9. Smith

          10. Moanga

          11. Fianganuku

          12. Havili

          13. Lenert-Brown

          14. Jordan

          15. J Barrett

          16. De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)

          17. Aumua

          18. Tuangafasi

          19. Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)

          20. A Savea

          21. Webber

          22. DMac

          23. Reece

          A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.

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          Canes4life
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          @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

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            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

            @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

            16,17,18 doesn't mean anything. Could be no23. He is still a hooker

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

              Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

              Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

              Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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              @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

              Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
              

              Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

              Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

              Past

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                What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                1. The Groot
                2. Aumua
                3. The mighty Williams
                4. Scott Barrett
                5. Vaiiiiii
                6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                8. Sotutu
                9. Fakatava
                10. Moanga
                11. Clarke
                12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                13. Lenert-Brown
                14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                16. A Ross?
                17. S Vikena?
                18. Tuangafasi?
                19. Lord or Darry
                20. Savea
                21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                • M Mackerzzzz

                  What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                  1. The Groot
                  2. Aumua
                  3. The mighty Williams
                  4. Scott Barrett
                  5. Vaiiiiii
                  6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                  7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                  8. Sotutu
                  9. Fakatava
                  10. Moanga
                  11. Clarke
                  12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                  13. Lenert-Brown
                  14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                  15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                  16. A Ross?
                  17. S Vikena?
                  18. Tuangafasi?
                  19. Lord or Darry
                  20. Savea
                  21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                  22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                  23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                  @mackerzzzz 🤮

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                    1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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                    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                    1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.

                    Starting loose forwards as a trio aren't abrasive enough for test footy imo. One of Ardie or Hoskins would need to drop out.

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                    • M Mackerzzzz

                      What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                      1. The Groot
                      2. Aumua
                      3. The mighty Williams
                      4. Scott Barrett
                      5. Vaiiiiii
                      6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                      7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                      8. Sotutu
                      9. Fakatava
                      10. Moanga
                      11. Clarke
                      12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                      13. Lenert-Brown
                      14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                      15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                      16. A Ross?
                      17. S Vikena?
                      18. Tuangafasi?
                      19. Lord or Darry
                      20. Savea
                      21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                      22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                      23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                      #789

                      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                      What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                      1. The Groot
                      2. Aumua
                      3. The mighty Williams
                      4. Scott Barrett
                      5. Vaiiiiii
                      6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                      7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                      8. Sotutu
                      9. Fakatava
                      10. Moanga
                      11. Clarke
                      12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                      13. Lenert-Brown
                      14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                      15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                      16. A Ross?
                      17. S Vikena?
                      18. Tuangafasi?
                      19. Lord or Darry
                      20. Savea
                      21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                      22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                      23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                      Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                      That’s as far as I got.

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                        @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                        What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                        1. The Groot
                        2. Aumua
                        3. The mighty Williams
                        4. Scott Barrett
                        5. Vaiiiiii
                        6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                        7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                        8. Sotutu
                        9. Fakatava
                        10. Moanga
                        11. Clarke
                        12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                        13. Lenert-Brown
                        14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                        15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                        16. A Ross?
                        17. S Vikena?
                        18. Tuangafasi?
                        19. Lord or Darry
                        20. Savea
                        21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                        22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                        23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                        Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                        That’s as far as I got.

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                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                        What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                        1. The Groot
                        2. Aumua
                        3. The mighty Williams
                        4. Scott Barrett
                        5. Vaiiiiii
                        6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                        7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                        8. Sotutu
                        9. Fakatava
                        10. Moanga
                        11. Clarke
                        12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                        13. Lenert-Brown
                        14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                        15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                        16. A Ross?
                        17. S Vikena?
                        18. Tuangafasi?
                        19. Lord or Darry
                        20. Savea
                        21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                        22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                        23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                        Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                        That’s as far as I got.

                        Williams can play both sides he was originally a TH
                        Probably will get some game time at TH for the Crusaders next season with Michael A gone.

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                        • pukunuiP pukunui
                          1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                          Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                          One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                          Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

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                          @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

                          1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                          Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                          One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                          Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

                          Jeez.

                          678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

                          Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

                          Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

                          Pick 3 ...

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

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                            @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                            ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                            Que?

                            Havili 12
                            ALB 13

                            ??

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                              @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                              ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                              Que?

                              Havili 12
                              ALB 13

                              ??

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                              #793

                              @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                              ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                              Que?

                              Havili 12
                              ALB 13

                              ??

                              If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

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                                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

                                Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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                                @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                

                                Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

                                Bollocks. He was coming back from injury.

                                And "have".

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                                  @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                  

                                  Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                  Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

                                  Past

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                                  #795

                                  @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                  

                                  Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                  Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

                                  Past

                                  Have

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                                    @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                    Que?

                                    Havili 12
                                    ALB 13

                                    ??

                                    If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

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                                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                    Que?

                                    Havili 12
                                    ALB 13

                                    ??

                                    If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

                                    The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

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                                      @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                                      1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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                                      @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                                      1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.

                                      Sotutu is going to be busy carrying them for 50mins.

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                        Que?

                                        Havili 12
                                        ALB 13

                                        ??

                                        If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

                                        The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

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                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                        Que?

                                        Havili 12
                                        ALB 13

                                        ??

                                        If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

                                        The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

                                        Sounds like a glowing endorsement to me.

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                                          Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                                          One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                                          Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

                                          Jeez.

                                          678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

                                          Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

                                          Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

                                          Pick 3 ...

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                                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                                          Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                                          One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                                          Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

                                          Jeez.

                                          678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

                                          Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

                                          Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

                                          Pick 3 ...

                                          Yeah a huge amount of quality options for once. The important part will be picking 3 that get the balance right.

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