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All Blacks 2021

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
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    #1186

    RTS will back himself to crack a squad like this in 12 months time.

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    • TimT Away
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      Tim
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      #1187

      Final test XXIII?

      1 Tui'nukuafe
      2 Taylor
      3 Laulala
      4 Retallick
      5 Whitelock
      6 Ioane
      7 Savea
      8 Sotutu

      9 Smith
      10 Barrett
      11 Ioane
      12 Havili
      13 ALB
      14 Jordan
      15 McKenzie

      16 Coles
      17 Bower
      18 Ta'avao
      19 Barrett/Tuipulotu
      20 Papalii
      21 Weber
      22 Mo'unga
      23 J Barrett

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      • KirwanK Offline
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        Kirwan
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        #1188

        How bad are the available wings if Bridge and Reece get in? And Frizell only plays well at Super level, is crap at Test level.

        Would have picked Robinson there for sure.

        All the posters pointing at Finlay are forgetting how bad Weber is.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          The worst selection IMO is Christie. Great liability, but he's obviously only there because TJP and Fakatava aren't in the squad. He won't be in the Rugby Championship squad, when TJP returns.

          Blackadder comes in for Grace.
          I think it was between Robinson and AIoane for one spot; I'd have preferred big Red, but it is what it is.

          Tupaea is probably only there because of the absence of Goodhue.

          De Groot is there because Moody is injured; Ta'avao or Lomax benefit from Ofa's injury.

          Many of these selections are injury enforced.

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          #1189

          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

          The worst selection IMO is Christie. Great liability, but he's obviously only there because TJP and Fakatava aren't in the squad. He won't be in the Rugby Championship squad, when TJP returns.

          I agree. For me, watching SA & Trans Ta$man from afar, Christie is the clear 3rd choice at 9. I'm OK with his selection, but def. not OK with the depth at 9 in NZ at the moment. The gap between AS and the rest is worrying.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

            Happy for Quinn but he was as surprised as the rest of us. As mentioned, PUJ suffered from a lack of opportunity.

            Christie, Ennor and Bridge should buy a lotto ticket tonight.

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            #1190

            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

            For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

            Not sure about that.

            I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

            Jacobson and Sotutu the No. 8s.

            Akira and Frizell the blindsides.

            I reckon Blackadder becomes the sort of Ardie/Masoe bench man who can cover all three.

            Tom might have needed to push out Akira or Shannon?

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            • TimT Tim

              Final test XXIII?

              1 Tui'nukuafe
              2 Taylor
              3 Laulala
              4 Retallick
              5 Whitelock
              6 Ioane
              7 Savea
              8 Sotutu

              9 Smith
              10 Barrett
              11 Ioane
              12 Havili
              13 ALB
              14 Jordan
              15 McKenzie

              16 Coles
              17 Bower
              18 Ta'avao
              19 Barrett/Tuipulotu
              20 Papalii
              21 Weber
              22 Mo'unga
              23 J Barrett

              BovidaeB Offline
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              Bovidae
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              #1191

              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

              Final test XXIII?

              6 Ioane
              7 Savea
              8 Sotutu

              Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                How bad are the available wings if Bridge and Reece get in? And Frizell only plays well at Super level, is crap at Test level.

                Would have picked Robinson there for sure.

                All the posters pointing at Finlay are forgetting how bad Weber is.

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                #1192

                @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                  Final test XXIII?

                  6 Ioane
                  7 Savea
                  8 Sotutu

                  Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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                  #1193

                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                  Final test XXIII?

                  6 Ioane
                  7 Savea
                  8 Sotutu

                  Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

                  Jesus wept.

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                  • HigginsH Higgins

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                    I thought ALB was out?

                    Didn't they set the precedent when Charles Piatau was not selected when he announced that he was leaving to play overseas?

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                    #1194

                    @higgins said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                    I thought ALB was out?

                    Didn't they set the precedent when Charles Piatau was not selected when he announced that he was leaving to play overseas?

                    Sorry missing your point.

                    ALB is injured.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                      Final test XXIII?

                      6 Ioane
                      7 Savea
                      8 Sotutu

                      Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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                      #1195

                      @bovidae agree there. Much better combo

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                      • G Gunner

                        That’s a bog average looking All Blacks squad.

                        Forwards are actually not too bad, but that backline… 🤮

                        Midfield - let’s hope Havili and Ioane don’t get hurt.

                        3 fullbacks and only 2 wingers selected, which means we’ll probably see the worlds slowest winger locked into 14 for the season again.

                        Where are the strike weapons?

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                        @gunner said in All Blacks 2021:

                        3 fullbacks and only 2 wingers selected, which means we’ll probably see the worlds slowest winger locked into 14 for the season again.

                        Will Jordan will have been picked mainly as a right wing.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

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                          Kirwan
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                          #1197

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

                          Even TJ is miles behind him. He’s the GOAT IMO.

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                          • A ARHS

                            Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

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                            #1198

                            @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

                            I’d take Hall ahead of either of those two.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                              For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

                              Not sure about that.

                              I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

                              Jacobson and Sotutu the No. 8s.

                              Akira and Frizell the blindsides.

                              I reckon Blackadder becomes the sort of Ardie/Masoe bench man who can cover all three.

                              Tom might have needed to push out Akira or Shannon?

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                              #1199

                              @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Not sure about that.
                              I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

                              That would make sense with these clowns. A bloke who says he is no longer an openside, no longer plays openside would be selected to address the failings of 2019...

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                                Great to see a bunch of proven failures given another crack at it. Real high performance stuff

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  This squad is a fucking joke.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  This squad is a fucking joke.

                                  Who should be swapped for who?

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Final test XXIII?

                                    6 Ioane
                                    7 Savea
                                    8 Sotutu

                                    Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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                                    Kirwan
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                                    #1202

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Final test XXIII?

                                    6 Ioane
                                    7 Savea
                                    8 Sotutu

                                    Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

                                    In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.

                                      Get Razor in there ASAP.

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                                      @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.

                                      Get Razor in there ASAP.

                                      See post above

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                                      • S Steven Harris

                                        @higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …

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                                        @steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …

                                        Again. Who is the alternative?

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Final test XXIII?

                                          6 Ioane
                                          7 Savea
                                          8 Sotutu

                                          Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

                                          In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.

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                                          #1205

                                          @kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.

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