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All Blacks 2021

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  • TimT Tim

    Final test XXIII?

    1 Tui'nukuafe
    2 Taylor
    3 Laulala
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Ioane
    7 Savea
    8 Sotutu

    9 Smith
    10 Barrett
    11 Ioane
    12 Havili
    13 ALB
    14 Jordan
    15 McKenzie

    16 Coles
    17 Bower
    18 Ta'avao
    19 Barrett/Tuipulotu
    20 Papalii
    21 Weber
    22 Mo'unga
    23 J Barrett

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    Final test XXIII?

    6 Ioane
    7 Savea
    8 Sotutu

    Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      How bad are the available wings if Bridge and Reece get in? And Frizell only plays well at Super level, is crap at Test level.

      Would have picked Robinson there for sure.

      All the posters pointing at Finlay are forgetting how bad Weber is.

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      @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

        Final test XXIII?

        6 Ioane
        7 Savea
        8 Sotutu

        Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

        Final test XXIII?

        6 Ioane
        7 Savea
        8 Sotutu

        Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

        Jesus wept.

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

          I thought ALB was out?

          Didn't they set the precedent when Charles Piatau was not selected when he announced that he was leaving to play overseas?

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          @higgins said in All Blacks 2021:

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

          I thought ALB was out?

          Didn't they set the precedent when Charles Piatau was not selected when he announced that he was leaving to play overseas?

          Sorry missing your point.

          ALB is injured.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

            Final test XXIII?

            6 Ioane
            7 Savea
            8 Sotutu

            Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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            @bovidae agree there. Much better combo

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            • G Gunner

              That’s a bog average looking All Blacks squad.

              Forwards are actually not too bad, but that backline… 🤮

              Midfield - let’s hope Havili and Ioane don’t get hurt.

              3 fullbacks and only 2 wingers selected, which means we’ll probably see the worlds slowest winger locked into 14 for the season again.

              Where are the strike weapons?

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              @gunner said in All Blacks 2021:

              3 fullbacks and only 2 wingers selected, which means we’ll probably see the worlds slowest winger locked into 14 for the season again.

              Will Jordan will have been picked mainly as a right wing.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

                Even TJ is miles behind him. He’s the GOAT IMO.

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                • A ARHS

                  Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

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                  @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

                  Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

                  I’d take Hall ahead of either of those two.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                    For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

                    Not sure about that.

                    I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

                    Jacobson and Sotutu the No. 8s.

                    Akira and Frizell the blindsides.

                    I reckon Blackadder becomes the sort of Ardie/Masoe bench man who can cover all three.

                    Tom might have needed to push out Akira or Shannon?

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                    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Not sure about that.
                    I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

                    That would make sense with these clowns. A bloke who says he is no longer an openside, no longer plays openside would be selected to address the failings of 2019...

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                      Great to see a bunch of proven failures given another crack at it. Real high performance stuff

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        This squad is a fucking joke.

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                        This squad is a fucking joke.

                        Who should be swapped for who?

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Final test XXIII?

                          6 Ioane
                          7 Savea
                          8 Sotutu

                          Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Final test XXIII?

                          6 Ioane
                          7 Savea
                          8 Sotutu

                          Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

                          In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.

                            Get Razor in there ASAP.

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                            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.

                            Get Razor in there ASAP.

                            See post above

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                            • S Steven Harris

                              @higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …

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                              @steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …

                              Again. Who is the alternative?

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Final test XXIII?

                                6 Ioane
                                7 Savea
                                8 Sotutu

                                Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

                                In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.

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                                @kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  This squad is a fucking joke.

                                  Who should be swapped for who?

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                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  This squad is a fucking joke.

                                  Who should be swapped for who?

                                  Mafileo in for de Groot.
                                  Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                                  Anyone for Christie.
                                  Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                                  PUJ for Ennor.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.

                                    I’d have Blackadder on the bench covering multiple positions. Also Akira at a push covers all three too.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      This squad is a fucking joke.

                                      Who should be swapped for who?

                                      Mafileo in for de Groot.
                                      Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                                      Anyone for Christie.
                                      Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                                      PUJ for Ennor.

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      This squad is a fucking joke.

                                      Who should be swapped for who?

                                      Mafileo in for de Groot.
                                      Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                                      Anyone for Christie.
                                      Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                                      PUJ for Ennor.

                                      Fair

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        This squad is a fucking joke.

                                        Who should be swapped for who?

                                        Mafileo in for de Groot.
                                        Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                                        Anyone for Christie.
                                        Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                                        PUJ for Ennor.

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        This squad is a fucking joke.

                                        Who should be swapped for who?

                                        Mafileo in for de Groot.
                                        Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                                        Anyone for Christie.
                                        Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                                        PUJ for Ennor.

                                        Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                                        Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          This squad is a fucking joke.

                                          Who should be swapped for who?

                                          Mafileo in for de Groot.
                                          Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                                          Anyone for Christie.
                                          Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                                          PUJ for Ennor.

                                          Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                                          Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.

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                                          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                                          Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project. 🙄

                                          How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.

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