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All Blacks 2021

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kirwan highlights the gulf in class behind Smith!

    Even TJ is miles behind him. He’s the GOAT IMO.

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    • A ARHS

      Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

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      @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

      Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

      I’d take Hall ahead of either of those two.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

        For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

        Not sure about that.

        I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

        Jacobson and Sotutu the No. 8s.

        Akira and Frizell the blindsides.

        I reckon Blackadder becomes the sort of Ardie/Masoe bench man who can cover all three.

        Tom might have needed to push out Akira or Shannon?

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        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

        Not sure about that.
        I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

        That would make sense with these clowns. A bloke who says he is no longer an openside, no longer plays openside would be selected to address the failings of 2019...

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          Great to see a bunch of proven failures given another crack at it. Real high performance stuff

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            This squad is a fucking joke.

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            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

            This squad is a fucking joke.

            Who should be swapped for who?

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

              Final test XXIII?

              6 Ioane
              7 Savea
              8 Sotutu

              Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

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              @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

              Final test XXIII?

              6 Ioane
              7 Savea
              8 Sotutu

              Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

              In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.

                Get Razor in there ASAP.

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                @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.

                Get Razor in there ASAP.

                See post above

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                • S Steven Harris

                  @higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …

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                  @steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …

                  Again. Who is the alternative?

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Final test XXIII?

                    6 Ioane
                    7 Savea
                    8 Sotutu

                    Savea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.

                    In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.

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                    @kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                      This squad is a fucking joke.

                      Who should be swapped for who?

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                      This squad is a fucking joke.

                      Who should be swapped for who?

                      Mafileo in for de Groot.
                      Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                      Anyone for Christie.
                      Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                      PUJ for Ennor.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.

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                        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.

                        I’d have Blackadder on the bench covering multiple positions. Also Akira at a push covers all three too.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                          This squad is a fucking joke.

                          Who should be swapped for who?

                          Mafileo in for de Groot.
                          Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                          Anyone for Christie.
                          Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                          PUJ for Ennor.

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                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                          This squad is a fucking joke.

                          Who should be swapped for who?

                          Mafileo in for de Groot.
                          Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                          Anyone for Christie.
                          Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                          PUJ for Ennor.

                          Fair

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                            This squad is a fucking joke.

                            Who should be swapped for who?

                            Mafileo in for de Groot.
                            Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                            Anyone for Christie.
                            Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                            PUJ for Ennor.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                            This squad is a fucking joke.

                            Who should be swapped for who?

                            Mafileo in for de Groot.
                            Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                            Anyone for Christie.
                            Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                            PUJ for Ennor.

                            Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                            Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                              This squad is a fucking joke.

                              Who should be swapped for who?

                              Mafileo in for de Groot.
                              Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
                              Anyone for Christie.
                              Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
                              PUJ for Ennor.

                              Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                              Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.

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                              @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                              Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project. 🙄

                              How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.

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                                Will both Moody and Tu'ungafasi be back for the Bledisloe Cup and RC games? That would make our front row look a hell of a lot better.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                                  Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project. 🙄

                                  How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.

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                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.

                                  How do guys like that get a free pass to stay in the test squad, while others get sent to NPC, or never get picked in the first place?

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?

                                    Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project. 🙄

                                    How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.

                                    "Workrate" picks, especially those that play for teams that defend a lot, have often been duds. I'd rather have players that dominate collisions, and don't have to play on the back foot most of the game.

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                                    • S Steven Harris

                                      @chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .

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                                      @steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .

                                      Yep I would be a big fan of picking him up for us.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .

                                        Yep I would be a big fan of picking him up for us.

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                                        @chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.

                                          How do guys like that get a free pass to stay in the test squad, while others get sent to NPC, or never get picked in the first place?

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                                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.

                                          How do guys like that get a free pass to stay in the test squad, while others get sent to NPC, or never get picked in the first place?

                                          OK but Ta’avao isn’t A1 in scrum and a bit long in tooth to be project.

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