All Blacks 2021
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@higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …
@steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:
@higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …
Again. Who is the alternative?
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Final test XXIII?
6 Ioane
7 Savea
8 SotutuSavea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.
In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
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@kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.
I’d have Blackadder on the bench covering multiple positions. Also Akira at a push covers all three too.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.Fair
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
"Workrate" picks, especially those that play for teams that defend a lot, have often been duds. I'd rather have players that dominate collisions, and don't have to play on the back foot most of the game.
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@chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .
@steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .
Yep I would be a big fan of picking him up for us.
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .
Yep I would be a big fan of picking him up for us.
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How do guys like that get a free pass to stay in the test squad, while others get sent to NPC, or never get picked in the first place?
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How do guys like that get a free pass to stay in the test squad, while others get sent to NPC, or never get picked in the first place?
OK but Ta’avao isn’t A1 in scrum and a bit long in tooth to be project.
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@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
Rumour around he may not get contracted 50/50 I hear.
When he has been given a chance he hasn’t taken them made some basic errors.
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Will both Moody and Tu'ungafasi be back for the Bledisloe Cup and RC games? That would make our front row look a hell of a lot better.
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Will both Moody and Tu'ungafasi be back for the Bledisloe Cup and RC games? That would make our front row look a hell of a lot better.
According to the information published by the media (assuming it's based on info from the franchises), both Moody and Tu'ungafasi will miss the July tests. Nothing said about Bledisloe Cup and RC, so they may be back. :folded_hands:
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
Rumour around he may not get contracted 50/50 I hear.
When he has been given a chance he hasn’t taken them made some basic errors.
He may have lost Confidence within the coaching group. -
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
Enari has been out of NPC and SR for at least a year, because of a horror leg injury. I think it was 2019?
He has now moved away from Canterbury and will be the top dog in the Magpies' squad, with both Weber and Fakatava unavailable. The Magpies have great coaches. He now gets the chance to prove himself and should grab the opportunity with both hands. If successful, who knows whether/where he'll end up playing Super Rugby?
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
Enari has been out of NPC and SR for at least a year, because of a horror leg injury. I think it was 2019?
He has now moved away from Canterbury and will be the top dog in the Magpies' squad, with both Weber and Fakatava unavailable. The Magpies have great coaches. He now gets the chance to prove himself and should grab the opportunity with both hands. If successful, who knows whether/where he'll end up playing Super Rugby?
@stargazer Hope he comes right, as he had great skills.
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Would've like to see more power in the outside backs e.g. Rayasi. Is Fainga'anuku too slow to be a wing at international level?
@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:
Would've like to see more power in the outside backs e.g. Rayasi. Is Fainga'anuku too slow to be a wing at international level?
Yeah - I wouldn't have minded seeing either of those two in there as a project.
But, both still make a lot more errors than you'd want from a fully-fledged AB.
Raw talent though.
