All Blacks 2021
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.
Not sure about that.
I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.
Jacobson and Sotutu the No. 8s.
Akira and Frizell the blindsides.
I reckon Blackadder becomes the sort of Ardie/Masoe bench man who can cover all three.
Tom might have needed to push out Akira or Shannon?
@chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:
Not sure about that.
I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.That would make sense with these clowns. A bloke who says he is no longer an openside, no longer plays openside would be selected to address the failings of 2019...
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Great to see a bunch of proven failures given another crack at it. Real high performance stuff
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This squad is a fucking joke.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Final test XXIII?
6 Ioane
7 Savea
8 SotutuSavea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Final test XXIII?
6 Ioane
7 Savea
8 SotutuSavea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.
In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.
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Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.
Get Razor in there ASAP.
@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
Mediocre squad, mediocre coaches.
Get Razor in there ASAP.
See post above
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@higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …
@steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:
@higgins should not even be in the team in my book ..personally he’s a last man standing selection …
Again. Who is the alternative?
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Final test XXIII?
6 Ioane
7 Savea
8 SotutuSavea and Sotutu are too similar for me. Apparently on the NZH Plumtree mentions a loose forward trio of Papalii/Jacobson/Savea.
In which position? Dalton should be the seven, and Jacobson is not as good as Sotutu at 8, and Akira is the obvious blindside.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
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@kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan I assume Savea is their no.8 and Papalii would be at 7. Jacobson must be 6 but there are a few options there. He could also cover 3 positions off the bench.
I’d have Blackadder on the bench covering multiple positions. Also Akira at a push covers all three too.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.Fair
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
This squad is a fucking joke.
Who should be swapped for who?
Mafileo in for de Groot.
Robinson in for Jacobsen/ Blackadder/ Frizell.
Anyone for Christie.
Fainga'anuku for Bridge.
PUJ for Ennor.Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Otherwise I agree. I like the Blackadder selection but Frizell just gets chance after chance without ever delivering.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Mafileo is a tighthead isn't he?
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
How many tackles was de Groot making per game in SRA? His workrate was mentioned by both Fox and Plumtree.
"Workrate" picks, especially those that play for teams that defend a lot, have often been duds. I'd rather have players that dominate collisions, and don't have to play on the back foot most of the game.
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@chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .
@steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .
Yep I would be a big fan of picking him up for us.
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .
Yep I would be a big fan of picking him up for us.
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How do guys like that get a free pass to stay in the test squad, while others get sent to NPC, or never get picked in the first place?
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
Yes. Plumtree admitted that Lomax is still a project.
How do guys like that get a free pass to stay in the test squad, while others get sent to NPC, or never get picked in the first place?
OK but Ta’avao isn’t A1 in scrum and a bit long in tooth to be project.
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@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.
Rumour around he may not get contracted 50/50 I hear.
When he has been given a chance he hasn’t taken them made some basic errors.
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Will both Moody and Tu'ungafasi be back for the Bledisloe Cup and RC games? That would make our front row look a hell of a lot better.
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Will both Moody and Tu'ungafasi be back for the Bledisloe Cup and RC games? That would make our front row look a hell of a lot better.
According to the information published by the media (assuming it's based on info from the franchises), both Moody and Tu'ungafasi will miss the July tests. Nothing said about Bledisloe Cup and RC, so they may be back. :folded_hands:
