All Blacks 2021
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Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
Aaron Mauger
Astonishing talent.
I stand by that. He was fucking good. Just saw a replay of the 2004 3N. Pity
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Aotearoa Rugby Pod
The winners and losers of Ian Foster's first All Blacks squad of 2021
https://play.acast.com/s/aotearoa-rugby-pod/thewinnersandlosersofianfostersfirstallblackssquadof2021
Parsons and Hall on the squad.
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Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!
@billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:
Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!
To be fair, at various times Tim's pretty much done a Mad King Aerys on everyone - "Drop them all!!!"
I'm not sure he'd be able to field a team of professional rugby players if he was a selector and unable to pick anyone he'd recommended must go!
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?
I've never heard him bring it up yet (although I haven't listened to the pod this week yet). I think he knows his time has past (for better or worse) and seems pretty into the Maori team.
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:
Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!
To be fair, at various times Tim's pretty much done a Mad King Aerys on everyone - "Drop them all!!!"
I'm not sure he'd be able to field a team of professional rugby players if he was a selector and unable to pick anyone he'd recommended must go!
@chris-b we'd be hard pressed finding a coach too, not to mention someone to ref.
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@chris-b we'd be hard pressed finding a coach too, not to mention someone to ref.
@crazy-horse At least TJ, Nisbo and Marshy would be able to commentate - unless he'd spent his fat selectors salary on Sky shares!
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.
If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.
personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.
If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.
personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there
It was easy to be anti Frizell when he was selected for the ABs off the Highlanders bench in a year that Akira won pretty much every Blues player award going and didn’t get a look in from Hansen.
Frizzell eventually started looking the goods for the Highlanders, but jury still out whether he’s got that next level in him.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.
If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.
personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there
It was easy to be anti Frizell when he was selected for the ABs off the Highlanders bench in a year that Akira won pretty much every Blues player award going and didn’t get a look in from Hansen.
Frizzell eventually started looking the goods for the Highlanders, but jury still out whether he’s got that next level in him.
@nepia never said his performances in the black jersey we'rent lacking, although i still think he done better than the fail mark a lot seem to give him, have made it quite clear Akira proved last year he deserves a run of games to see if he can make it is own
was just meaning it seems like Akria gets a lot of support because people are so anti frizell and they need to make it quite clear who is better than him
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I wonder if there was any thought into bringing a fourth hooker into the mix.
Coles isn't young and Taylor has had a gigantic workload.
I thought they might want to have a look at Taukei'aho.
@kiwimurph you'd think (hope) the likes of Taylor and Smith will have relatively light workloads in this series
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The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre
This kind of thing is almost up there with FDS though. Who is saying that?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre
This kind of thing is almost up there with FDS though. Who is saying that?
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@nepia never said his performances in the black jersey we'rent lacking, although i still think he done better than the fail mark a lot seem to give him, have made it quite clear Akira proved last year he deserves a run of games to see if he can make it is own
was just meaning it seems like Akria gets a lot of support because people are so anti frizell and they need to make it quite clear who is better than him
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@nepia never said his performances in the black jersey we'rent lacking, although i still think he done better than the fail mark a lot seem to give him, have made it quite clear Akira proved last year he deserves a run of games to see if he can make it is own
was just meaning it seems like Akria gets a lot of support because people are so anti frizell and they need to make it quite clear who is better than him
TBH I don’t think they’re necessarily always linked. Akira gets a lot of support because the anti Akira crowd just came up with bullshit reasons for not liking him and changed the goalpost when the reasons were shown to be hookum.
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I'd like Akira to get a decent run of games against decent teams to see if he is actually good. At this stage I don't think any of us can know for sure. Given no one has made the 6 jersey their own he deserves the same opportunities that others have had. He is definitely good enough for that.
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@bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.
Good luck finding it...
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I'd like Akira to get a decent run of games against decent teams to see if he is actually good. At this stage I don't think any of us can know for sure. Given no one has made the 6 jersey their own he deserves the same opportunities that others have had. He is definitely good enough for that.
@crazy-horse yep as I think he has gone missing in some games previously (when up against quality opposition) although has been a bit more consistent of late, certainly has the chance to claim the jersey for himself though.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.
Good luck finding it...
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.
Good luck finding it...
you are right, perhaps the meds are working, perhaps it was in the Blues thread perhaps on another tab (NZHerald or Stuff) but I can't find it. I recall clear as day, today, reading someone saying that Akira wasn't good for the ABs and I thought one poster here indirectly responded to it. But now I can't find it. Maybe I have just reached peak madness.
Yeah maybe it was poster Blair065 on stuff, I have impugned innocent Ferners, my bad!
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