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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    Billy Tell
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    Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
      I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
      Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
      I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

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      #1341

      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

      The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
      I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
      Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
      I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

      Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

      If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @crucial brings back memories of Byron "like a shaken up can of fizzy drink" Kelleher.

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        #1342

        @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

          The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
          I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
          Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
          I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

          Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

          If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

          KirwanK Offline
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          Kirwan
          wrote on last edited by
          #1343

          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

          The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
          I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
          Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
          I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

          Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

          If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

          The lack of self awareness of this post is extraordinary.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
            I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
            Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
            I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

            Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

            If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

            KiwiwombleK Offline
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            Kiwiwomble
            wrote on last edited by
            #1344

            @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
            I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
            Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
            I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

            Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

            If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

            personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

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            • broughieB broughie

              @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

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              #1345

              @broughie said in All Blacks 2021:

              @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

              I think they watched this on repeat

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                KirwanK Offline
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                Kirwan
                wrote on last edited by
                #1346

                @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                  The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                  I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                  Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                  I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                  Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                  If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                  personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                  He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

                  KiwiMurphK Offline
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                  KiwiMurph
                  wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
                  #1347

                  @kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                  The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                  I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                  Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                  I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                  Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                  If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                  personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                  He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

                  Also opposite in the sense that Akira has been given 1 and a quarter test starts - and Frizell has 12 test starts.

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                  • TimT Offline
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                    #1348

                    Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

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                      #1349

                      @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                      Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

                      And we won't address those answers until 2024.

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                        #1350

                        Aotearoa Rugby Pod

                        The winners and losers of Ian Foster's first All Blacks squad of 2021

                        https://play.acast.com/s/aotearoa-rugby-pod/thewinnersandlosersofianfostersfirstallblackssquadof2021

                        Parsons and Hall on the squad.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Aaron Mauger

                          Astonishing talent.

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                          Rancid Schnitzel
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1351

                          @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Aaron Mauger

                          Astonishing talent.

                          I stand by that. He was fucking good. Just saw a replay of the 2004 3N. Pity

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Aotearoa Rugby Pod

                            The winners and losers of Ian Foster's first All Blacks squad of 2021

                            https://play.acast.com/s/aotearoa-rugby-pod/thewinnersandlosersofianfostersfirstallblackssquadof2021

                            Parsons and Hall on the squad.

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                            Bovidae
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                            #1352

                            @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1353

                              @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

                              To be fair, at various times Tim's pretty much done a Mad King Aerys on everyone - "Drop them all!!!"

                              I'm not sure he'd be able to field a team of professional rugby players if he was a selector and unable to pick anyone he'd recommended must go! 🙂

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

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                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

                                I've never heard him bring it up yet (although I haven't listened to the pod this week yet). I think he knows his time has past (for better or worse) and seems pretty into the Maori team.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

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                                  @bovidae Not that I can recall.

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

                                    To be fair, at various times Tim's pretty much done a Mad King Aerys on everyone - "Drop them all!!!"

                                    I'm not sure he'd be able to field a team of professional rugby players if he was a selector and unable to pick anyone he'd recommended must go! 🙂

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                                    @chris-b we'd be hard pressed finding a coach too, not to mention someone to ref.

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                                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                      @chris-b we'd be hard pressed finding a coach too, not to mention someone to ref.

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                                      @crazy-horse At least TJ, Nisbo and Marshy would be able to commentate - unless he'd spent his fat selectors salary on Sky shares! 🙂

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                                        I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                                        Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                                        I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                                        Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                                        If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                                        personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1358

                                        @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                                        I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                                        Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                                        I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                                        Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                                        If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                                        personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                                        It was easy to be anti Frizell when he was selected for the ABs off the Highlanders bench in a year that Akira won pretty much every Blues player award going and didn’t get a look in from Hansen.

                                        Frizzell eventually started looking the goods for the Highlanders, but jury still out whether he’s got that next level in him.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                                          I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                                          Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                                          I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                                          Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                                          If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                                          personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                                          It was easy to be anti Frizell when he was selected for the ABs off the Highlanders bench in a year that Akira won pretty much every Blues player award going and didn’t get a look in from Hansen.

                                          Frizzell eventually started looking the goods for the Highlanders, but jury still out whether he’s got that next level in him.

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                                          @nepia never said his performances in the black jersey we'rent lacking, although i still think he done better than the fail mark a lot seem to give him, have made it quite clear Akira proved last year he deserves a run of games to see if he can make it is own

                                          was just meaning it seems like Akria gets a lot of support because people are so anti frizell and they need to make it quite clear who is better than him

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