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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Maybe he was seen as such an injury risk that no one wanted to sign him back then?

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      #1334

      So Foster has chosen Christie based on him running around like he's at a 5 year old's birthday party after guzzling red cordial? Strange selection process.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        So Foster has chosen Christie based on him running around like he's at a 5 year old's birthday party after guzzling red cordial? Strange selection process.

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        @crucial brings back memories of Byron "like a shaken up can of fizzy drink" Kelleher.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @rapido I think even back in Feb it would have made sense - Fakatava was primed for a breakout year, Weber was likely always going to be in the ABs.

          We needed a halfback no matter what.

          I find it weird he didn’t have a team until recently, unless the Pies and the Village of the Damned made a deal?

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          #1336

          @nepia You mean a continuation of the one we had years back when we captured a number of the B Team Canterbury players coming up thinking they were just the cats whiskers and looking for an easy way into first class rugby?

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            So Foster has chosen Christie based on him running around like he's at a 5 year old's birthday party after guzzling red cordial? Strange selection process.

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            #1337

            @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

            So Foster has chosen Christie based on him running around like he's at a 5 year old's birthday party after guzzling red cordial? Strange selection process.

            Leon talked about on the Breakdown, he was large contributer to the Blues winning with box kicks and his running game. He's easily the best kicking halfback the Blues have, and then it's Ruru (who's the fittest and makes a difference when he comes on as a sub). Nock's kicks straight up in the air got him dropped.

            He was injured earlier in the season and took a few weeks to find form, but once he did and the Blues went to a kick heavy game plan with him and Sullivan, the Blues forwards certainly enjoyed the territory he gained, and the wingers loved the contestable kicks.

            Think about how bad the Blues exits used to be. Christie has been part of the vast improvement in that area.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

              Fozzie on Christie:

              “With Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

              “It's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

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              Which Christie is he watching?

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              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

              Fozzie on Christie:

              “With Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

              “It's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

              alt text

              Which Christie is he watching?

              Let me put this into Foster logic terms for you.
              The guy is fast, and he looks busy. Sure he doesn't have many skills but he looks busy. As my coaching team don't really help anyone improve their skills (especially in the backs) he might as well look busy.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                Fozzie on Christie:

                “With Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

                “It's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

                alt text

                Which Christie is he watching?

                Let me put this into Foster logic terms for you.
                The guy is fast, and he looks busy. Sure he doesn't have many skills but he looks busy. As my coaching team don't really help anyone improve their skills (especially in the backs) he might as well look busy.

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                #1339

                The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

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                • Billy TellB Offline
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                  Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                    I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                    Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                    I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

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                    #1341

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                    The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                    I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                    Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                    I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                    Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                    If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @crucial brings back memories of Byron "like a shaken up can of fizzy drink" Kelleher.

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                      #1342

                      @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                        The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                        I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                        Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                        I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                        Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                        If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                        KirwanK Offline
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                        #1343

                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                        The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                        I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                        Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                        I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                        Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                        If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                        The lack of self awareness of this post is extraordinary.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                          The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                          I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                          Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                          I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                          Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                          If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

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                          #1344

                          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                          The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                          I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                          Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                          I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                          Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                          If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                          personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

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                          • broughieB broughie

                            @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

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                            @broughie said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

                            I think they watched this on repeat

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                              The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                              I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                              Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                              I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                              Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                              If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                              personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                              KirwanK Offline
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                              #1346

                              @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                              The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                              I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                              Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                              I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                              Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                              If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                              personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                              He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                                The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                                I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                                Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                                I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                                Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                                If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                                personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                                He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

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                                #1347

                                @kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                                The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                                I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                                Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                                I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                                Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                                If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                                personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                                He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

                                Also opposite in the sense that Akira has been given 1 and a quarter test starts - and Frizell has 12 test starts.

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                                • TimT Offline
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                                  Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

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                                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

                                    And we won't address those answers until 2024.

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                                      Aotearoa Rugby Pod

                                      The winners and losers of Ian Foster's first All Blacks squad of 2021

                                      https://play.acast.com/s/aotearoa-rugby-pod/thewinnersandlosersofianfostersfirstallblackssquadof2021

                                      Parsons and Hall on the squad.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Aaron Mauger

                                        Astonishing talent.

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                                        @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Aaron Mauger

                                        Astonishing talent.

                                        I stand by that. He was fucking good. Just saw a replay of the 2004 3N. Pity

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Aotearoa Rugby Pod

                                          The winners and losers of Ian Foster's first All Blacks squad of 2021

                                          https://play.acast.com/s/aotearoa-rugby-pod/thewinnersandlosersofianfostersfirstallblackssquadof2021

                                          Parsons and Hall on the squad.

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                                          @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

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