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  • CrucialC Crucial

    So Foster has chosen Christie based on him running around like he's at a 5 year old's birthday party after guzzling red cordial? Strange selection process.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    So Foster has chosen Christie based on him running around like he's at a 5 year old's birthday party after guzzling red cordial? Strange selection process.

    Leon talked about on the Breakdown, he was large contributer to the Blues winning with box kicks and his running game. He's easily the best kicking halfback the Blues have, and then it's Ruru (who's the fittest and makes a difference when he comes on as a sub). Nock's kicks straight up in the air got him dropped.

    He was injured earlier in the season and took a few weeks to find form, but once he did and the Blues went to a kick heavy game plan with him and Sullivan, the Blues forwards certainly enjoyed the territory he gained, and the wingers loved the contestable kicks.

    Think about how bad the Blues exits used to be. Christie has been part of the vast improvement in that area.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

      Fozzie on Christie:

      “With Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

      “It's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

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      Which Christie is he watching?

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      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

      Fozzie on Christie:

      “With Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

      “It's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

      alt text

      Which Christie is he watching?

      Let me put this into Foster logic terms for you.
      The guy is fast, and he looks busy. Sure he doesn't have many skills but he looks busy. As my coaching team don't really help anyone improve their skills (especially in the backs) he might as well look busy.

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

        Fozzie on Christie:

        “With Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

        “It's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

        alt text

        Which Christie is he watching?

        Let me put this into Foster logic terms for you.
        The guy is fast, and he looks busy. Sure he doesn't have many skills but he looks busy. As my coaching team don't really help anyone improve their skills (especially in the backs) he might as well look busy.

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        #1339

        The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
        I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
        Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
        I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

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          Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
            I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
            Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
            I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

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            #1341

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
            I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
            Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
            I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

            Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

            If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @crucial brings back memories of Byron "like a shaken up can of fizzy drink" Kelleher.

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              @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

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                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                The lack of self awareness of this post is extraordinary.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                  The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                  I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                  Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                  I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                  Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                  If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

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                  #1344

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                  The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                  I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                  Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                  I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                  Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                  If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                  personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

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                  • broughieB broughie

                    @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

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                    @broughie said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @kiwimurph Except Kelleher got to the rucks quickly. Christie is slow. Just wondering what his strong point is?

                    I think they watched this on repeat

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                      The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                      I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                      Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                      I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                      Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                      If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                      personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

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                      #1346

                      @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                      The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                      I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                      Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                      I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                      Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                      If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                      personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                      He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                        The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                        I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                        Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                        I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                        Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                        If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                        personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                        He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

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                        #1347

                        @kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                        The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre.
                        I don't really see why he seems to irritate so many posters here beyond the bounds of personal preference.
                        Granted he might not be the best 6/8 in NZ as there are so many quality candidates, but his performance for the ABs, from what I saw he was one of the most dynamic and intimidating forwards (with special commendation to Sam Cane who added to his great defending with some real go forward and useful running).
                        I guess some pundits don't like Akira's hairdresser...

                        Aye? He's been the most hyped up player on the Fern in recent years. His bandwagon here is packed.

                        If you have tiniest of criticism of Akira on the Fern, you're facing the guillotine. Some people are super sentive if you don't agree with them at the worst of times, but if it's about Akira, you get a bloody Fern meltdown.

                        personally i think Akira is just seen as the anti frizell, people dont like frizell and so the talk up Akira as who should be there

                        He's the anti-Frizell in the sense he's played well at Test level, and Shannon hasn't.

                        Also opposite in the sense that Akira has been given 1 and a quarter test starts - and Frizell has 12 test starts.

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                          Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

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                            @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Well, we're probably not going to get any real answers about the team until Saturday 07 August (Bled 1), anyway.

                            And we won't address those answers until 2024.

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                              Aotearoa Rugby Pod

                              The winners and losers of Ian Foster's first All Blacks squad of 2021

                              https://play.acast.com/s/aotearoa-rugby-pod/thewinnersandlosersofianfostersfirstallblackssquadof2021

                              Parsons and Hall on the squad.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Aaron Mauger

                                Astonishing talent.

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                                @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Aaron Mauger

                                Astonishing talent.

                                I stand by that. He was fucking good. Just saw a replay of the 2004 3N. Pity

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Aotearoa Rugby Pod

                                  The winners and losers of Ian Foster's first All Blacks squad of 2021

                                  https://play.acast.com/s/aotearoa-rugby-pod/thewinnersandlosersofianfostersfirstallblackssquadof2021

                                  Parsons and Hall on the squad.

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                                  @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

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                                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

                                    To be fair, at various times Tim's pretty much done a Mad King Aerys on everyone - "Drop them all!!!"

                                    I'm not sure he'd be able to field a team of professional rugby players if he was a selector and unable to pick anyone he'd recommended must go! 🙂

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

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                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

                                      I've never heard him bring it up yet (although I haven't listened to the pod this week yet). I think he knows his time has past (for better or worse) and seems pretty into the Maori team.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @tim Does Hall ever talk about his own continued omission in these pod casts?

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                                        @bovidae Not that I can recall.

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Looking at that squad, I’d say Tim is one of the selectors. All his favourites are there, even Shannon Frizzell!

                                          To be fair, at various times Tim's pretty much done a Mad King Aerys on everyone - "Drop them all!!!"

                                          I'm not sure he'd be able to field a team of professional rugby players if he was a selector and unable to pick anyone he'd recommended must go! 🙂

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                                          @chris-b we'd be hard pressed finding a coach too, not to mention someone to ref.

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