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All Blacks 2021

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    Some interesting insights on AB selections from Will Genia:

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      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-like-beauden-at-10-wallabies-legend-weighs-into-beauden-barrett-richie-mounga-debate/

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        So anyone heard anything about UK coverage yet?

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          So anyone heard anything about UK coverage yet?

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          @bones

          I was just wondering this while reading the thread....

          Fingers crossed

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            So anyone heard anything about UK coverage yet?

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            @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

            So anyone heard anything about UK coverage yet?

            Not looking good: https://www.wheresthematch.com/live-rugby-union-on-tv/

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              So Keo in SA has written off the All Black forwards as "frail". Hate to say it but he does have a point (for once). Unless there are some serious improvements this year, this so-called frailty is going to be an obvious target for the opposition.

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                So Keo in SA has written off the All Black forwards as "frail". Hate to say it but he does have a point (for once). Unless there are some serious improvements this year, this so-called frailty is going to be an obvious target for the opposition.

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                @old-samurai-jack which forwards? Surely not our loose forwards?

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                  I am more worried about our backs.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @old-samurai-jack which forwards? Surely not our loose forwards?

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                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @old-samurai-jack which forwards? Surely not our loose forwards?

                    he's comparing us to a golden era of AB tight play. Only rates savea, reckons Whitelock/Retallick are past it.

                    I think the only thing you can say is 'we'll see'. Not sure the Bokke are filling the world with fear right now - the lack of international level rugby will have an effect. Lions tour could be very interesting. Betfair has the lions slightly favourites to win the series, and I agree - and I think the forwards will be a big part of that.

                    We've seen the NH sides really lift after their 2015 embarassment. Good for them, now we have to do the same

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                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @old-samurai-jack which forwards? Surely not our loose forwards?

                      he's comparing us to a golden era of AB tight play. Only rates savea, reckons Whitelock/Retallick are past it.

                      I think the only thing you can say is 'we'll see'. Not sure the Bokke are filling the world with fear right now - the lack of international level rugby will have an effect. Lions tour could be very interesting. Betfair has the lions slightly favourites to win the series, and I agree - and I think the forwards will be a big part of that.

                      We've seen the NH sides really lift after their 2015 embarassment. Good for them, now we have to do the same

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                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

                      We've seen the NH sides really lift after their 2015 embarassment. Good for them, now we have to do the same

                      Perhaps we should stop sending our coaches and retirees OS to teach them?

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                        Keo is the SA version of Ratpoo. Click bait so ignore.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Keo is the SA version of Ratpoo. Click bait so ignore.

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                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Keo is the SA version of Ratpoo. Click bait so ignore.

                          even more clickbait than he used to be since he struck out on his own.

                          A mate (genuinely not me yo) used to hop on Keo after the Bokke lost and troll them ... very easy to wind up his audience. I don't commend or condemn, but I do understand 🙂

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @old-samurai-jack which forwards? Surely not our loose forwards?

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                            @antipodean Personally, I think one of our failings since the Lions series and one that didn't seem to improve last year was the lack of go forward in our forwards. Predictable pod systems, a lack of pick and go, a lack of getting over the gain line, etc to create space for the backs. Keo is a wind-up merchant with a patch but in this case, there is no smoke without fire, unless the All Black forwards get more efficient, it won't matter which backs will be playing.

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                              @antipodean Personally, I think one of our failings since the Lions series and one that didn't seem to improve last year was the lack of go forward in our forwards. Predictable pod systems, a lack of pick and go, a lack of getting over the gain line, etc to create space for the backs. Keo is a wind-up merchant with a patch but in this case, there is no smoke without fire, unless the All Black forwards get more efficient, it won't matter which backs will be playing.

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                              @old-samurai-jack I agree our structure is easily read. Not sure changing players makes a difference.

                              I'm just furious that after all the talk about imposing ourselves, they coaches selected the team they did to be humiliated by Argentina.

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                                @old-samurai-jack I agree our structure is easily read. Not sure changing players makes a difference.

                                I'm just furious that after all the talk about imposing ourselves, they coaches selected the team they did to be humiliated by Argentina.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @old-samurai-jack I agree our structure is easily read. Not sure changing players makes a difference.

                                I'm just furious that after all the talk about imposing ourselves, they coaches selected the team they did to be humiliated by Argentina.

                                In the last 3 years we have played like a team who thinks they can’t win a physical battle. Makes it easier to defend as you take out nearly half the field

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                                  It depends which forwards we pick......

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                                    It depends which forwards we pick......

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                                    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    It depends which forwards we pick......

                                    In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

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                                      @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      It depends which forwards we pick......

                                      In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

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                                      @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      It depends which forwards we pick......

                                      In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

                                      Hodgeman
                                      T. Crusader
                                      Laulala
                                      A. Crusader
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Papalii
                                      T. Cane
                                      Ioane

                                      You got this @KiwiMurph

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                                        @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        It depends which forwards we pick......

                                        In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

                                        Hodgeman
                                        T. Crusader
                                        Laulala
                                        A. Crusader
                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Papalii
                                        T. Cane
                                        Ioane

                                        You got this @KiwiMurph

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                                        @bones

                                        Tam Cane? 😉

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                                          @bones

                                          Tam Cane? 😉

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                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @bones

                                          Tam Cane? 😉

                                          Two A Crusaders and one T Chief would work.

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