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All Blacks 2021

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Keo is the SA version of Ratpoo. Click bait so ignore.

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    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    Keo is the SA version of Ratpoo. Click bait so ignore.

    even more clickbait than he used to be since he struck out on his own.

    A mate (genuinely not me yo) used to hop on Keo after the Bokke lost and troll them ... very easy to wind up his audience. I don't commend or condemn, but I do understand 🙂

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @old-samurai-jack which forwards? Surely not our loose forwards?

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      @antipodean Personally, I think one of our failings since the Lions series and one that didn't seem to improve last year was the lack of go forward in our forwards. Predictable pod systems, a lack of pick and go, a lack of getting over the gain line, etc to create space for the backs. Keo is a wind-up merchant with a patch but in this case, there is no smoke without fire, unless the All Black forwards get more efficient, it won't matter which backs will be playing.

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      • O Old Samurai Jack

        @antipodean Personally, I think one of our failings since the Lions series and one that didn't seem to improve last year was the lack of go forward in our forwards. Predictable pod systems, a lack of pick and go, a lack of getting over the gain line, etc to create space for the backs. Keo is a wind-up merchant with a patch but in this case, there is no smoke without fire, unless the All Black forwards get more efficient, it won't matter which backs will be playing.

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        @old-samurai-jack I agree our structure is easily read. Not sure changing players makes a difference.

        I'm just furious that after all the talk about imposing ourselves, they coaches selected the team they did to be humiliated by Argentina.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @old-samurai-jack I agree our structure is easily read. Not sure changing players makes a difference.

          I'm just furious that after all the talk about imposing ourselves, they coaches selected the team they did to be humiliated by Argentina.

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          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

          @old-samurai-jack I agree our structure is easily read. Not sure changing players makes a difference.

          I'm just furious that after all the talk about imposing ourselves, they coaches selected the team they did to be humiliated by Argentina.

          In the last 3 years we have played like a team who thinks they can’t win a physical battle. Makes it easier to defend as you take out nearly half the field

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            It depends which forwards we pick......

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              It depends which forwards we pick......

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              @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

              It depends which forwards we pick......

              In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                It depends which forwards we pick......

                In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

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                @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                It depends which forwards we pick......

                In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

                Hodgeman
                T. Crusader
                Laulala
                A. Crusader
                Tuipulotu
                Papalii
                T. Cane
                Ioane

                You got this @KiwiMurph

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                  It depends which forwards we pick......

                  In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

                  Hodgeman
                  T. Crusader
                  Laulala
                  A. Crusader
                  Tuipulotu
                  Papalii
                  T. Cane
                  Ioane

                  You got this @KiwiMurph

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @bones

                  Tam Cane? 😉

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @bones

                    Tam Cane? 😉

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @bones

                    Tam Cane? 😉

                    Two A Crusaders and one T Chief would work.

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                        Moody
                        Taylor
                        Laulala
                        Retallick
                        Whitelock
                        Cane
                        Ioane
                        Sotutu

                        Would be my choice

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                          It depends which forwards we pick......

                          In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

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                          @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                          It depends which forwards we pick......

                          In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

                          Of those available in the squad, on the above basis:

                          DeGroot (just shades Karl on workrate but loses on scrummaging, so wouldn’t make my actual team)
                          Taylor
                          Ofa
                          Whitelock
                          Retallick
                          Blackadder (I actually think Robinson but he wasn’t picked)
                          Paps
                          Ioane (I think Sotutu is much more Zinzan than Buck, if that makes sense)

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            Moody
                            Taylor
                            Laulala
                            Retallick
                            Whitelock
                            Cane
                            Ioane
                            Sotutu

                            Would be my choice

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                            @chris oh is Cane available? I'd missed that.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              Moody
                              Taylor
                              Laulala
                              Retallick
                              Whitelock
                              Cane
                              Ioane
                              Sotutu

                              Would be my choice

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                              @chris That's how I see our top starting forward pack right now. Could be a tweak in the loose forwards.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                It depends which forwards we pick......

                                In your opinion what is the most hard arsed take no shit 8 (plus bench)we can select.

                                Of those available in the squad, on the above basis:

                                DeGroot (just shades Karl on workrate but loses on scrummaging, so wouldn’t make my actual team)
                                Taylor
                                Ofa
                                Whitelock
                                Retallick
                                Blackadder (I actually think Robinson but he wasn’t picked)
                                Paps
                                Ioane (I think Sotutu is much more Zinzan than Buck, if that makes sense)

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                                Old Samurai Jack
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                                @gt12 The elephant in the room....... the Crusaders loose forwards seemed to dominate against the Blues despite the Blues advantage at set piece.......

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @chris oh is Cane available? I'd missed that.

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                                  #1470

                                  @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @chris oh is Cane available? I'd missed that.

                                  I named the best 8 whe can field when everyone is fit.
                                  IMO

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @chris That's how I see our top starting forward pack right now. Could be a tweak in the loose forwards.

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                                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @chris That's how I see our top starting forward pack right now. Could be a tweak in the loose forwards.

                                    The bench would be strong if we fielded that 8 some good impact with
                                    Coles,OfaT, Patty T, Dalton or Ardie

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                                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                                      So Keo in SA has written off the All Black forwards as "frail". Hate to say it but he does have a point (for once). Unless there are some serious improvements this year, this so-called frailty is going to be an obvious target for the opposition.

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                                      @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      So Keo in SA has written off the All Black forwards as "frail". Hate to say it but he does have a point (for once). Unless there are some serious improvements this year, this so-called frailty is going to be an obvious target for the opposition.

                                      Was it Keo? Saw the headline and just didn't bother. Am now feeling justified.

                                      Saw Jim Kayes tweet something about some bloke hardly any Kiwi had heard of. Keo's been around for years (been quiet recently ... is he making a comeback now they won something, are ranked No.1, and are unbeaten for nearly two years?), so if you haven't heard of him you haven't done your job, and if you have you know he's (politely) a provocateur.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Keo is the SA version of Ratpoo. Click bait so ignore.

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                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Keo is the SA version of Ratpoo. Click bait so ignore.

                                        Unlike Ratpoo he is actually capable of reasonable logical analysis. Just plays to his audience (Who @nzzp mentioned are somewhat unhinged) often.

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                                          Think this may be geo locked: https://www.florugby.com/events

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