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All Blacks 2021

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ofa and Moody in the new squad.

    And TJP.

    I hope Christie was fully aware that he was being used as a stopgap. He did well and has now lost the option of going north and playing for Scotland.
    TJP should have been made to wait IMO.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ofa and Moody in the new squad.

    And TJP.

    I hope Christie was fully aware that he was being used as a stopgap. He did well and has now lost the option of going north and playing for Scotland.
    TJP should have been made to wait IMO.

    Pfft, he’s no Leslie, Simpson, Longstaff or Laney, as if he’d be an option for the mighty Scots.

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      "Prop George Bower will remain with the squad as injury cover for Moody, who is not expected to return to Test rugby until after the Bledisloe Cup Series. Hooker Samisoni Taukei’aho will also stay with the All Blacks squad as cover for Asafo Aumua who missed the last two Tests of the Steinlager Series. Aumua may also play the opening round of the Bunnings Warehouse NPC to build his match fitness."

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      • MN5M MN5

        @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

        @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

        Ofa and Moody in the new squad.

        And TJP.

        I hope Christie was fully aware that he was being used as a stopgap. He did well and has now lost the option of going north and playing for Scotland.
        TJP should have been made to wait IMO.

        Pfft, he’s no Leslie, Simpson, Longstaff or Laney, as if he’d be an option for the mighty Scots.

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        #1609

        @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

        @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

        @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

        Ofa and Moody in the new squad.

        And TJP.

        I hope Christie was fully aware that he was being used as a stopgap. He did well and has now lost the option of going north and playing for Scotland.
        TJP should have been made to wait IMO.

        Pfft, he’s no Leslie, Simpson, Longstaff or Laney, as if he’d be an option for the mighty Scots.

        I thought he would fulfil the ginga quota if required.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

          @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

          @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

          Ofa and Moody in the new squad.

          And TJP.

          I hope Christie was fully aware that he was being used as a stopgap. He did well and has now lost the option of going north and playing for Scotland.
          TJP should have been made to wait IMO.

          Pfft, he’s no Leslie, Simpson, Longstaff or Laney, as if he’d be an option for the mighty Scots.

          I thought he would fulfil the ginga quota if required.

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          @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

          @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

          @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

          Ofa and Moody in the new squad.

          And TJP.

          I hope Christie was fully aware that he was being used as a stopgap. He did well and has now lost the option of going north and playing for Scotland.
          TJP should have been made to wait IMO.

          Pfft, he’s no Leslie, Simpson, Longstaff or Laney, as if he’d be an option for the mighty Scots.

          I thought he would fulfil the ginga quota if required.

          True, Scots are pretty short on those at the moment since Rob Harley fell out of favour.

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            Stargazer
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            #1611

            Here's the media release (always prefer going to the source):
            https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-squad-named-for-the-rugby-championship/

            In addition to the info about Moody and Bower, Aumua and Taukei'aho, there's also this:

            One of the key features of the squad is the return of 69-Test halfback TJ Perenara to the national side. Having recently returned from Japan, Perenara is following a progressive return to rugby programme of club then Bunnings Warehouse NPC rugby. New All Black Finlay Christie will remain as temporary cover with the squad.

            Meanwhile, it’s also a welcome back to midfielder Braydon Ennor, who missed the Steinlager Series to undergo appendicitis surgery.

            125-Test lock Samuel Whitelock will again captain the All Blacks, in the absence of Sam Cane who is still recovering from chest surgery. As well as Cane, midfielder Jack Goodhue was also not considered for selection due to injury.

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              TJ gets rewarded for being shit in 2020. Lomax and Bridge being ABs is just wrong.

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                ARHS
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                #1613

                Don't know how Lomax stayed in ahead of De Groot and Ross. Otherwise as expected for me

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                  sparky
                  wrote on last edited by sparky
                  #1614

                  I know it is a large squad but I am left underwhelmed by the selection of Tyrell Lomax, TJ Perenera, Braydon Ennor and George Bridge.

                  Adequate journeymen at Super Level but I can't see any of them pulling up trees at Test level.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    I know it is a large squad but I am left underwhelmed by the selection of Tyrell Lomax, TJ Perenera, Braydon Ennor and George Bridge.

                    Adequate journeymen at Super Level but I can't see any of them pulling up trees at Test level.

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                    nostrildamus
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                    PUJ over Ennor for me. With the added advantage he isn 't always injured.
                    de Groot over Lomax sure but I thought Lomax was strong in the mauls etc, it was Ta'avao I would question. Better scrummager than Lomax?

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                      sparky
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                      Great to see Joe Moody and Ofa T back. They have been missed.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        I know it is a large squad but I am left underwhelmed by the selection of Tyrell Lomax, TJ Perenera, Braydon Ennor and George Bridge.

                        Adequate journeymen at Super Level but I can't see any of them pulling up trees at Test level.

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                        Crucial
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                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                        I know it is a large squad but I am left underwhelmed by the selection of Tyrell Lomax, TJ Perenera, Braydon Ennor and George Bridge.

                        Adequate journeymen at Super Level but I can't see any of them pulling up trees at Test level.

                        I don't get the Ennor love at all except that his continued unavailability means that he isn't getting a chance to show how average he is.
                        Like Bridge he's a good Super player that is made to look better by being in a good team.

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                          Mackerzzzz
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                          What a surprise. Always stick with your tried and tested right🤨!. Lomax, TJP, Bridge & Ennor should count themselves very lucky.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                            I know it is a large squad but I am left underwhelmed by the selection of Tyrell Lomax, TJ Perenera, Braydon Ennor and George Bridge.

                            Adequate journeymen at Super Level but I can't see any of them pulling up trees at Test level.

                            I don't get the Ennor love at all except that his continued unavailability means that he isn't getting a chance to show how average he is.
                            Like Bridge he's a good Super player that is made to look better by being in a good team.

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                            @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                            I know it is a large squad but I am left underwhelmed by the selection of Tyrell Lomax, TJ Perenera, Braydon Ennor and George Bridge.

                            Adequate journeymen at Super Level but I can't see any of them pulling up trees at Test level.

                            I don't get the Ennor love at all except that his continued unavailability means that he isn't getting a chance to show how average he is.
                            Like Bridge he's a good Super player that is made to look better by being in a good team.

                            I don't think he should be there, but I guess he is seen as a similar type of player to Roane - covers 13 and both wings, so perhaps in the selectors eyes it could be that they want to put some time into developing him. If Roane were to get injured tomorrow, I assume that he would be the player for the 23 jersey (as ALB covers 12).

                            That's the best I've got, because on actual form I don't see why he is there.

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                            • M Mackerzzzz

                              What a surprise. Always stick with your tried and tested right🤨!. Lomax, TJP, Bridge & Ennor should count themselves very lucky.

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                              booboo
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                              @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                              What a surprise. Always stick with your tried and tested right🤨!. Lomax, TJP, Bridge & Ennor should count themselves very lucky.

                              And your alternatives?

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                              • A ARHS

                                Don't know how Lomax stayed in ahead of De Groot and Ross. Otherwise as expected for me

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                                @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Don't know how Lomax stayed in ahead of De Groot and Ross. Otherwise as expected for me

                                Because Lomax is a TH, and De Groot and Ross are LHs?

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                                • M Mackerzzzz

                                  What a surprise. Always stick with your tried and tested right🤨!. Lomax, TJP, Bridge & Ennor should count themselves very lucky.

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                                  sparky
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                                  #1622

                                  @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  What a surprise. Always stick with your tried and tested right🤨!. Lomax, TJP, Bridge & Ennor should count themselves very lucky.

                                  @booboo

                                  De Groot, Ross or Moli above Lomax.
                                  Christie or Hall or Drummond or Roe above TJP.
                                  PUJ or Nankivell above Ennor.
                                  Rayasi or Nareki above Bridge.

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    I can understand Bridge still being in the squad but serious questions will be asked if he starts in Auckland. Good to hold some tackle bags though! 😉

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      I can understand Bridge still being in the squad but serious questions will be asked if he starts in Auckland. Good to hold some tackle bags though! 😉

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                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      I can understand Bridge still being in the squad but serious questions will be asked if he starts in Auckland. Good to hold some tackle bags though! 😉

                                      We are not massively blessed with a depth of talent on the Wing beyond Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece and Will Jordan. I think Rayasi and Nareki would offer a bit more threat than Bridge but both are untried at Test level.

                                      If they can show form or fitness, I'd be tempted to consider recalling either Caleb Clarke or Julian Savea for the EOYT.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Don't know how Lomax stayed in ahead of De Groot and Ross. Otherwise as expected for me

                                        Because Lomax is a TH, and De Groot and Ross are LHs?

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                                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Don't know how Lomax stayed in ahead of De Groot and Ross. Otherwise as expected for me

                                        Because Lomax is a TH, and De Groot and Ross are LHs?

                                        The squad has 4 tightheads and two looseheads in it. It looks like they're probably playing Tu'ungafasi out of position to keep Lomax around.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          I can understand Bridge still being in the squad but serious questions will be asked if he starts in Auckland. Good to hold some tackle bags though! 😉

                                          We are not massively blessed with a depth of talent on the Wing beyond Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece and Will Jordan. I think Rayasi and Nareki would offer a bit more threat than Bridge but both are untried at Test level.

                                          If they can show form or fitness, I'd be tempted to consider recalling either Caleb Clarke or Julian Savea for the EOYT.

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                                          KiwiMurph
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                                          @sparky Ennor is back too - i'd like to see him tried on the wing.

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